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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>http://www.epanorama.net/blog/2010/03/14/problems-with-old-java-applications/comment-page-2/#comment-765337</link>
		<dc:creator>Tomi Engdahl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 08:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Java roadmap: Oracle&#039;s two-year plan
The company is planning aggressive moves for the critical software platform in the next few years. Here&#039;s a rundown
http://www.infoworld.com/slideshow/28552/java-roadmap-oracles-two-year-plan-185238</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Java roadmap: Oracle&#8217;s two-year plan<br />
The company is planning aggressive moves for the critical software platform in the next few years. Here&#8217;s a rundown<br />
<a href="http://www.infoworld.com/slideshow/28552/java-roadmap-oracles-two-year-plan-185238" rel="nofollow">http://www.infoworld.com/slideshow/28552/java-roadmap-oracles-two-year-plan-185238</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>http://www.epanorama.net/blog/2010/03/14/problems-with-old-java-applications/comment-page-2/#comment-682282</link>
		<dc:creator>Tomi Engdahl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 13:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Java Considered Harmful
http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00002285.html

Do you need Java in your web browser? Seriously, do you? If not, get rid of it.

Turns out, most users don&#039;t need Java any more, yet people keep running it.

The risks of Java are nicely illustrated by the recent Java Rhino vulnerability (aka CVE-2011-3544). If you&#039;re running Java, but not the latest version, you&#039;re vulnerable. So either you have to check at all times that you have the latest version of Java — or get rid of it altogether.

And the Java Rhino vulnerability is not theoretical: the most common exploit kits have incorporated this vulnerability in their default exploits, and it seems to be working very well for the online criminals.

So, ditch Java if you can. It might not be as painful as you think

Also note that Chrome has been doing a good job in sandboxing or otherwise securing risky add-ons and extensions. Many Java exploits do not work against Chrome. Also, Chrome does not use an Adobe Reader plugin to render PDF files.</description>
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<a href="http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00002285.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00002285.html</a></p>
<p>Do you need Java in your web browser? Seriously, do you? If not, get rid of it.</p>
<p>Turns out, most users don&#8217;t need Java any more, yet people keep running it.</p>
<p>The risks of Java are nicely illustrated by the recent Java Rhino vulnerability (aka CVE-2011-3544). If you&#8217;re running Java, but not the latest version, you&#8217;re vulnerable. So either you have to check at all times that you have the latest version of Java — or get rid of it altogether.</p>
<p>And the Java Rhino vulnerability is not theoretical: the most common exploit kits have incorporated this vulnerability in their default exploits, and it seems to be working very well for the online criminals.</p>
<p>So, ditch Java if you can. It might not be as painful as you think</p>
<p>Also note that Chrome has been doing a good job in sandboxing or otherwise securing risky add-ons and extensions. Many Java exploits do not work against Chrome. Also, Chrome does not use an Adobe Reader plugin to render PDF files.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>http://www.epanorama.net/blog/2010/03/14/problems-with-old-java-applications/comment-page-2/#comment-673331</link>
		<dc:creator>Tomi Engdahl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Canonical To Remove Sun Java From Repositories, Users&#039; Machines
http://developers.slashdot.org/story/11/12/18/1425230/canonical-to-remove-sun-java-from-repositories-users-machines

&quot;Apparently, Oracle&#039;s &#039;Operating System Distributor License for Java&#039; is expired, causing Ubuntu to not only remove sun-java from the partner repository, but from user&#039;s machines.&quot;

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/java-to-be-removed-from-ubuntu-uninstalled-from-user-machines/

From the article: &quot;Oracle, in retiring the ‘Operating System Distributor License for Java’, means Canonical no longer have permission to distribute the package.&quot; So it&#039;s not that Oracle has lost their right to distribute Java (JDK) or something, but they are retiring the license Canonical is using that granted them the right to distribute it with Ubuntu. The summary also states (correctly) that Ubuntu will remove the sun-java package from the repository and user&#039;s machines, but does not state why: “Due to the severity of the security risk, Canonical is immediately releasing a security update for the Sun JDK browser plugin which will disable the plugin on all machines.” Ubuntu’s Marc Deslauriers wrote in a mail to the Ubuntu Security Mailing list.


Comment:

It&#039;s being replace by OpenJDK. It was planned to happen like this for years. This was planned obsolescence with a gradual move to OpenJDK. Their is no surprise here except for those who didn&#039;t know it was coming. The summary is inflammatory but if you read the article you see that this is nothing really.

OpenJDK is still the default, and still distributed. And like TFA pointed out, the Sun/Oracle version is old and has security issues anyway.
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<a href="http://developers.slashdot.org/story/11/12/18/1425230/canonical-to-remove-sun-java-from-repositories-users-machines" rel="nofollow">http://developers.slashdot.org/story/11/12/18/1425230/canonical-to-remove-sun-java-from-repositories-users-machines</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Apparently, Oracle&#8217;s &#8216;Operating System Distributor License for Java&#8217; is expired, causing Ubuntu to not only remove sun-java from the partner repository, but from user&#8217;s machines.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/java-to-be-removed-from-ubuntu-uninstalled-from-user-machines/" rel="nofollow">http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/java-to-be-removed-from-ubuntu-uninstalled-from-user-machines/</a></p>
<p>From the article: &#8220;Oracle, in retiring the ‘Operating System Distributor License for Java’, means Canonical no longer have permission to distribute the package.&#8221; So it&#8217;s not that Oracle has lost their right to distribute Java (JDK) or something, but they are retiring the license Canonical is using that granted them the right to distribute it with Ubuntu. The summary also states (correctly) that Ubuntu will remove the sun-java package from the repository and user&#8217;s machines, but does not state why: “Due to the severity of the security risk, Canonical is immediately releasing a security update for the Sun JDK browser plugin which will disable the plugin on all machines.” Ubuntu’s Marc Deslauriers wrote in a mail to the Ubuntu Security Mailing list.</p>
<p>Comment:</p>
<p>It&#8217;s being replace by OpenJDK. It was planned to happen like this for years. This was planned obsolescence with a gradual move to OpenJDK. Their is no surprise here except for those who didn&#8217;t know it was coming. The summary is inflammatory but if you read the article you see that this is nothing really.</p>
<p>OpenJDK is still the default, and still distributed. And like TFA pointed out, the Sun/Oracle version is old and has security issues anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Cecily Wambach</title>
		<link>http://www.epanorama.net/blog/2010/03/14/problems-with-old-java-applications/comment-page-2/#comment-543706</link>
		<dc:creator>Cecily Wambach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 06:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very good post</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very good post</p>
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		<title>By: Kredyty</title>
		<link>http://www.epanorama.net/blog/2010/03/14/problems-with-old-java-applications/comment-page-2/#comment-50866</link>
		<dc:creator>Kredyty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank You For This Post, was added to my bookmarks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank You For This Post, was added to my bookmarks.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Bredelmann</title>
		<link>http://www.epanorama.net/blog/2010/03/14/problems-with-old-java-applications/comment-page-1/#comment-41131</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Bredelmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 10:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats really the Truth.
But i dont have Problems under Linux with Java, only in Windows.
Thanks
Frank</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats really the Truth.<br />
But i dont have Problems under Linux with Java, only in Windows.<br />
Thanks<br />
Frank</p>
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		<title>By: Annelasse</title>
		<link>http://www.epanorama.net/blog/2010/03/14/problems-with-old-java-applications/comment-page-1/#comment-34690</link>
		<dc:creator>Annelasse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 03:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very Interesting! 
Thank You&lt;a href=&quot;http://ukegfvkwuergfku.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very Interesting!<br />
Thank You<a href="http://ukegfvkwuergfku.com" rel="nofollow">!</a></p>
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		<title>By: Janessa Kautzman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janessa Kautzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 11:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on!</p>
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		<title>By: Nikke</title>
		<link>http://www.epanorama.net/blog/2010/03/14/problems-with-old-java-applications/comment-page-1/#comment-33947</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2010 21:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm, I was wondering, do you desire your site to be typed out with a www or not? I would like to link back to your website, however I don&#039;t know whether www is required.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm, I was wondering, do you desire your site to be typed out with a www or not? I would like to link back to your website, however I don&#8217;t know whether www is required.</p>
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		<title>By: gry online</title>
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		<dc:creator>gry online</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2010 21:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very Interesting Information! Thank You For Thi Blog!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very Interesting Information! Thank You For Thi Blog!</p>
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