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Laptop to PA humming

Tuesday, June 29th, 2010

A quite typical audio/visual presentation equipment nowdays in many setups includes PC, video projector, audio mixer, amplifier and speakers. Typically you run presentation software through our laptop to a projector and the audio from mics, pianos, guitars, etc to a mixer and then to power amps then to the speakers. The problem many people are having (i have received many mails on this) is a low-level hum/static sound that arises when they connect the computer to the mixer in any form (headphone output into one of the mixer’s channels or to the RCA input on the mixer). Typically the problem goes away when the computer is taken off from AC power and runs on the internal battery.

Many people have asked are there in any easy ways to fix it? Ther answer is yes. The situation you have is a classical example of a ground-loop problem. A ground loop occurs through differences in resistance in the electrical system. When you connect your computer to your stereo, a path is provided for electricity to flow from one wall socket to another as the electrical system tries to balance itself. This causes your speakers to hum.

Good news is that there is an easy ways to fix it: audio isolation transformer. Feed the audio signal from PC to suitable isolation transformer and from the transformer to your mixer. The end result is that the humming noise is gone (no matter if PC is powered from mains or not) and the sound from PC goes to mixer (pretty much) unaffected by the process. The following picture shows how to wire the isolator between PC and the PA system. There are many different kind of isolators available, usually the easiest to use ones with PA system are line level audio isolation transformers with RCA connectors and DI-boxes.

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Image source: Xitel Ground Loop Isolator

More details on those isolators can be found on the following web pages:
http://www.epanorama.net/documents/groundloop/audio_isolators.html
http://www.epanorama.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=47729
http://www.epanorama.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=20937
http://www.xitel.com/USA/prod_gli.htm

Video links
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqUfX0VYTKU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elnekf5kufU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhKXenKOjmU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqXMyPesH4Q

Secrets of hum elimination plug

Tuesday, June 22nd, 2010

Ground loop can cause considerable currents to flow on all cables on the loop. It is not uncommon to have a voltage of 1V RMS between the earth connections of power outlets that are wired separately back to the switchboard. This small voltage, with a total resistance of perhaps 0.2-0.5 Ohm, will cause a loop current of 2 to 5 Amps, all of which flows in the shield of the interconnect. This is sufficient to cause a voltage difference across the interconnect, which the amplifier cannot differentiate from the wanted signal. An earth loop will typically inject either a 50Hz or 60Hz hum into the signal.

You might have seen the following kind of device marketed for ground loop problem solving for USA markets:

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The product page boasts with the following features: The Hum X Exterminator removes unwanted voltage and current in the ground line that cause ground loop hum. This noise reduction adapter simultaneously maintains a solid, safe ground. You no longer have to run your audio signal through filtering that results in loss of volume, tone, or both. Some devices simply remove or float the ground, which is never safe! Hum X removes the ground loop while leaving the ground and your signal intact. Easy to use and completely effective!

The question what comes to my mind when I saw this is how this thing works. Harmony Central Ebtech Hum-X Review gives some interesting details how this device is expected to work:

After briefly analyzing the input to output ground connections I found this to be very similar to a galvanic isolator that is widely used in the boating communities for ship to shore power connections. It appears that there are two diodes and a 1Kohm impedance that are connected in parallel from input ground to output ground. The parallel diodes are configured back to back so that there is a 0.7volt drop in each direction. Since I could not look inside the unit the diodes are an assumption on my part? they may have used transistors configured as diodes. The potential safety hazard here, is that one or both of these diodes could fail open leaving the user with no safety ground.

Non-isolating isolator article gives information how those boat isolators work: When a boat plugs into shorepower, the shorepower cord will often make an electrical connection between the underwater metals on all the boats that are plugged in, creating a risk of galvanic corrosion. A galvanic isolator is designed to prevent this by blocking DC currents with voltages that reach as much as -1.2 volts DC. This is achieved by installing two sets of devices known as ‘diodes’, with one set installed in the opposite direction to the other. There are two types of galvanic isolator, one with a device known as a ‘capacitor’ wired around the diodes, and one without. Without a capacitor, if there is AC leakage on the shorepower ground circuit that has a voltage above 1.2 volts AC, this AC leakage will ‘bias’ the diodes into a conductive state.

Narrowboat AC Electrical systems article give the following application example for boat galvanic isolator use:

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When the isolator is used for galvanic corrosion protection we want to block the DC and let the AC pass though, so the quite large capacitor in parallel with the diodes is a good idea. On audio systems ground loop protection we want to block low voltage AC, so the version without capacitor is the right one to use (there could be some very small capacitors used on audio isolators for RF protection and sometimes resistors to pass low leakage currents in case installed to system where there is no ground loop).

Elliott Sound Products article Earthing Your Hi-Fi – Tricks and Techniques article give some construction details how A High Current Safety Loop Breaker Circuit (pretty similar to one believed to be inside HumX) could be built:

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This circuit example has the ground isolator between the mains power ground and audio part zero voltage line. Here the circuit the current loop breaking the loop is done with the 10 Ohm resistor, the current is now less than 200mA, and the voltage across the interconnect will be very much smaller, reducing the hum to the point where it should no longer be audible. This is how the circuits work when the potential difference over the 10 ohm resistor is lower than the voltage drop of the diodes on the rectifier bridge (around 1.2-1.4V). The capacitor will pass high frequencies (RFI protection).

In case there are is some serious ground leakage the diodes will start to conduct and pass through enough current needed to burn the mains fuse if needed without too much vooltage drop (no dangerous voltages over the isolator circuit). In the event of a major fault, one (or more) of the diodes in the bridge will possibly fail. Semiconductors (nearly) always fail as short circuit, and only become open circuited if the fault current continues and ‘blows’ the interconnecting wires. High current bridge rectifiers have very solid conductors throughout, and open circuit diodes are very rare. Use of the bridge means that there are two diodes in parallel for fault current of either polarity, so the likelihood of failure (to protect) is very small indeed.

If you plan to do any experimenting in this field, make sure that you find out the legal requirements in your country, and don’t do anything that places you at risk – either from electrocution or legal liability. Neither is likely to be a pleasant experience.

Electrical safety cannot be over emphasised. Hum is damn annoying, and everyone wants it gone. There is no good reason to sacrifice one for the other, since safety and hum-free operation can peacefully co-exist with care and the right techniques.

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NEVER use a three prong to two prong AC adapter to fix a ground loop problem. These devices are meant to provide a safety ground (via the cover plate screw to a grounded outlet) in the event a three prong plug is used with a two prong outlet in USA. It is wrong and dangerous trying to use such adapter to break the safety ground connection. Also do not try to use any other adapter that breaks the ground connection (some travel adapters).

Neutral wire grounding

Monday, June 21st, 2010

An ungrounded system is one in which there is no intentional connection between the system conductors and earth. When the neutral of the system is not grounded, it is possible for high voltages to appear from line to ground during normal switching of a circuit having a line to ground fault. These voltages may cause failure of insulation at other locations on the system and result to damage to equipment.

Line to ground fault on ungrounded neutral systems causes a small amount of ground fault current to flow which may not be enough to actuate protective relays or other protective equipment.

Neutral grounding has been in practice in many systems all over the world. Generally, the neutrals of source transformers or generators with star connected windings are grounded. Grounding the neutral reduces the magnitude of transient voltages, improves protection against lightning, protection for line to ground fault becomes reliable, and improves reliability & safety. Also the potential of the neutral gets fixed.

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Line to ground fault on grounded neutral systems causes a large ground fault current that will very quickly burn the power feed fuse or trip other protective equipment. This means that the faults are detected quickly and the place of fault is quickly isolated from electrical distribution network (will not disturb operation of rest of electrical distribution network, and the potentially dangerous voltage at fault location are quickly cut of so reduced electrocution danger).

The typical disadvantages of grounded systems are related to high fault currents. In a typical solidly grounded three phase system, the neutral is tied directly to earth ground. This can cause high ground fault current (typically 200 to 20,000 amps) and excessive damage to transformers, generators, motors, wiring, and associated equipment. Some industrial electrical distribution networks use Neutral Grounding Resistor between neutral and ground limits fault current to a safer levels (typically 25 to 400 amps) while still allowing sufficient current flow to operate fault clearing the protective relays.

Scope and ground loops

Tuesday, June 15th, 2010

Differential Scope Primer is a good introduction to oscillospe measurement. This web posting is a shortened version of the information on that document related to ground loops. I have also added here some of my own comments.

Most oscilloscopes are designed to measure voltages that are referenced to earth ground, which is connected to the scope chassis. These are referred to as “single-ended” measurements. Ground loops can corrupt such scope measurement easily.

A ground loop results when two or more separate ground paths are tied together at two or more points. The result is a loop of conductor. Connecting the ground lead of an oscilloscope probe to the ground in the circuit-under-test results in a ground loop if the circuit is “grounded” to earth ground. Typically the metal chassis of both scope and device under test are connected to safety ground and internal power supply common. Scope probe ground connects to scope chassis at the input BNC connector.

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Image source: http://www.tek.com/Measurement/App_Notes/DiffOscPrimer/Introduction.html

In the presence of a varying magnetic field, this loop becomes the secondary of a transformer which is essentially a shorted turn. The magnetic field which excites the transformer can be created by any conductor in the vicinity which is carrying AC or changing current. The potential difference seen on oscilloscope probe ground can range from microvolts to as high as hundreds of millivolts.

In these situations, it’s often tempting to remove the probe ground lead to get rid of the noise. This method really works sometimes, but this technique is only effective when measuring very low-frequency signals. At higher frequencies, the probe without good ground contact on both ends begins to add “ring” to the signal. Keep in mind that the current must always form a loop and the smaller the loop are the better. Mysterious ground article gives you more details on what happens and what errors you can see. It is possible that the position of the probe cable can have an effect on the shape of the signals you see on the scope (Try it). Another nasty artifact of a no-ground probe arrangement is the resonance associated with the combination of the rather large inductance (loop inductance of L1=500 nH) and input capacitance of the probe (for example C1=1-10 pF). This resonance is called a probe resonance. A short, explicit ground connection made between the scope ground and the equipment under test shunts around both CI and L1, eliminating their influence on the measured result and pushing the probe resonance up and out of the band of interest.

The next technique often tried to break ground loops is to “float” the scope or “float” the circuit being measured. This practice is inherently dangerous, as it defeats the protection from electrical shock. Idea of “floating” the scope is generally a bad and unsafe idea with a normal oscilloscope (usually metal case and touchable metal parts in it, all in contact with probe ground). Some battery-operated portable scopes allow safe floating operation and you can get rid of ground loop problems and neither side grounded problems with them.

In case of small circuit being measured powering the circuit through safety isolation transformer that breaks the ground connection could be useful. Powering the circuit being measurede though safety isolation transformer is a proven method used at electronics repair shops.

Even when the measurement system doesn’t introduce ground loops, the “ground is not ground” syndrome may exist within the device being measured. Large static currents and high-frequency currents act on the resistive and inductive components of the device ground path to produce voltage gradients. These effects have challenged designers of sensitive analog systems and fast digital systems for years.

If the voltage to be measured is between two circuit nodes, neither of which is grounded, conventional oscilloscope probing cannot be used. There are several types of differential amplifiers and isolation systems available for oscilloscopes with different propertied (targeted for different applications).

Power Quality and Utilisation Guide

Monday, June 7th, 2010

Power Quality and Utilisation Guide is a free on-line reference source for power quality information. It provides both background theory and solutions from electrical power industry. The guide is prepared by specialist authors from industry and academia, and edited by Copper Development Association’s David Chapman. The Guide is organized into 8 sections and presented in a series of short Application Notes. Application Notes are down-loadable individually in pdf format or as a fully searchable library (packed to Windows exe).

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EMC fundamentals and groundloops

Monday, May 31st, 2010

Some days ago read Things Every Electrical Engineer Should Know about EMC slide set by Todd H. Hubing Michelin Professor of Vehicular Electronics Clemson University. I must say that it is an interesting slide set to check. It is a short 25 slide set that introduces EMC fundamentals and ground loops. Here is one fact that is not often presented clearly elsewhere:

Current takes the path of least impedance!
> 100 kHz this is generally the path of least inductance
< 10 kHz this is generally the path(s) of least resistance

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Manager’s guide to digital design

Tuesday, April 13th, 2010

Manager’s guide to digital design article from EDN magazine is for all those hardworking engineering managers who just want a simple, one-page summary of everything they need to know about digital design. Here are some picks from article:

GROUND: mythical electrical object that absorbs unlimited quantities of electrical current. Ground exists in Spice but nowhere else. Radar engineers in the 1930s discredited the concept of ground as anything more than a good place to grow carrots and potatoes.

EQUALIZER: the Chuck Norris of serial-transmission circuits. An equalizer improves the odds of success for all good bits by knocking out the bad artifacts. Just saying you have an equalizer makes investors swoon.

ROHS (restriction-of-hazardous-substances) Lead-Free Solder Initiative: Evil plot by Luddites to rid the world of computers by first rendering all electronic products flaky and unreliable. The initiative may precipitate the collapse of Western civilization. Until then, just smile and go along with the scheme like everyone else.

Unbalanced to impedance balanced

Tuesday, February 23rd, 2010

Just about all professional equipment uses balanced audio lines, which, if properly executed, will eliminate the hum completely. They help especially with long interconnects where earth loops can be a real pain. Circuits driving balanced lines must themselves be balanced to maintain the benefits of balance. This may be achieved by differential signaling, transformer coupling or by merely balancing the impedance in each conductor. Typical professional audio sources, such as microphones, have three-pin XLR connectors. One is the ground or common, while the other two are signal connections.

Many consumer HIFI equipment and other audio signal sources offer only unbalanced outputs. Unbalanced interconnections pick up easily all kinds of noise (especially ground loop noise), so you might want to avoid them everywhere you can.

You can convert the simple unbalanced preamp output to balanced circuit with one of the  following tricks:
- Use a DI box to convert unbalanced signal to balanced microphone level signal
- An audio transformer is a classic way to convert unbalanced to balanced
- Balanced opamp output circuit can convert unbalanced to balanced (more modern approach but more components)

In addition to those there is not so widely mentioned impedance-balanced output option:

1. Figure out the output impedance of your unbalanced signal source. Usually looking at the circuit diagram of the device will tell you that easily. If you don’t have that, you can always measure the output impedance.
2. Pick a resistor that has same resistance as the output impedance of your unbalanced output (as close as possible… preferably within 1% accuracy).
3. Wire the unbalanced output signal to XLR pin 2 (+).
4. Wire ground to XLR pin 1 (ground).
5. Wire that resistor you just selected between XLR pins3 (-) and pin 1 (ground).

Now you have a impedance-balanced output. It is not exactly as good as a real balanced output, but performs pretty close a real balanced output in normal applications. You can use the same idea also with 6.3 mm jacks: signal goes to tip and the resistor to ring. An impedance balanced output with 6.3 mm jacks works as well as an unbalanced output if that is what is needed (just plug in a cable with mono plug).

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Impedance-balanced principle has been used some professional electret mics and on outputs of some “budget” mixers! Just by adding one resistor an unbalanced output is converted to impedance balanced output that works very well with all equipment that has balanced inputs.

More information on line balancing and theory can be found at great The Self Site Balanced Line Technology document.

High Speed Lightning Videos

Saturday, February 13th, 2010

Lightning Reveals Its Power in Slow Motion article on Wired has a series of videos that combines severe weather, electricity, and technology. The maker of those videos, Tom Warner, documents the powerful beauty of lightning with an array of optical and electromagnetic sensors. “Lightning is one of nature’s most spectacular phenomena,” says Warner. “I want to understand how lightning behaves.” Since 2007, Tom has used Vision Research ‘Phantom’ high-speed video cameras capable of recording lightning at up to 54,000 images per second. The camera continuously records in a looping memory buffer.

The first video and the picture below (from that video) shows a downward-propagating negatively charged, stepped leader. The lightning branches out in many different directions, causing one leader to make a connection with the ground, creating a bright return stroke.

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After watching the videos it is a good idea to also read how to protect buildings and electronics against lightning damages. K1TTT on grounding and lightning protection highlights the need for single point grounding system. Check also surge suppression links and documents on ePanorama.net.

Differential video amplifiers

Thursday, January 28th, 2010

Differential amplifier approach uses an operational Amplifier. Operational Amplifiers only amplify the difference between the two input lines. This method eliminates common mode noise between the incoming signals by making A-B=C, as only the difference between A & B are amplified. Operational amplifiers is maintain wide bandwidth signals throughout your system while eliminating ground loop problems that are caused by power and video. Differential video amplifier inputs are used in some video equipments (typically some video projectors) and video distribution amplifiers to fight against ground loop problems.

Differential video amplifiers have a limitation on their input voltage range which gives some limitations how much common mode signal those circuits can tolerate. If the ground potential difference is more than few volts, then operational amplifier based isolators don’t work effectively. Too high voltage difference can cause problems from very distorted video signal to damaged differential video amplifier. If the voltage difference is a substantial proportion of the DC supply voltage of the amplifier, you will probably have trouble using an amplifier alone.

It is a good idea to measure the voltage difference before using differential video amplifiers to be sure not to damage them. Measuring can be done using a multi-meter (check using both AC and DC ranges) or better using a scope earthed to the mains supply, and put the probe on the earth connection of the incoming video cable. If you many potential difference which are many volts, then you have quite probably something wrong in the grounding of the building and you should consult a qualified electrician to check and correct this potentially a dangerous problem

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Image source: http://www.edn.com/archives/1997/050897/10di_06.htm#Figure%201

Look also: http://pdf1.alldatasheet.co.kr/datasheet-pdf/view/136144/MAXIM/MAX9546.html


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