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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2010/04/28/led-vs-fluorescent-tubes/comment-page-1/#comment-1772650</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2022 11:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Inside a sticky (glue board) fly trap (with ballast schematic)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YkQpB3EmYA

Much simpler than the zapping fly traps, this type uses a UVA lamp to attract flies to a replaceable sticky board.  When they land on it they get stuck.

The most complicated part of this is the electronic ballast for the tube, which is the same sort of circuitry you&#039;d find inside a compact fluorescent lamp.

Interesting startup circuit.  Very minimalist.

This unit does have a weird design flaw.  It has to be plugged into an extension or adaptor, since the case fouls the switch on most UK sockets, preventing it from being plugged in fully.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inside a sticky (glue board) fly trap (with ballast schematic)<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YkQpB3EmYA" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YkQpB3EmYA</a></p>
<p>Much simpler than the zapping fly traps, this type uses a UVA lamp to attract flies to a replaceable sticky board.  When they land on it they get stuck.</p>
<p>The most complicated part of this is the electronic ballast for the tube, which is the same sort of circuitry you&#8217;d find inside a compact fluorescent lamp.</p>
<p>Interesting startup circuit.  Very minimalist.</p>
<p>This unit does have a weird design flaw.  It has to be plugged into an extension or adaptor, since the case fouls the switch on most UK sockets, preventing it from being plugged in fully.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2010/04/28/led-vs-fluorescent-tubes/comment-page-1/#comment-1732671</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2021 07:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dimmable and non-dimmable CFL teardown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHzDU--0730

I found a pair of crappy old Omicron dimmable CFLs being thrown out at the recycling centre.  Here&#039;s what&#039;s inside, along with what&#039;s inside a Philips non-dimmable and an Osram dual-brightness one.

Schematics:
https://www.facebook.com/AintBigAintClever/posts/2886650861646591]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dimmable and non-dimmable CFL teardown<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHzDU--0730" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHzDU&#8211;0730</a></p>
<p>I found a pair of crappy old Omicron dimmable CFLs being thrown out at the recycling centre.  Here&#8217;s what&#8217;s inside, along with what&#8217;s inside a Philips non-dimmable and an Osram dual-brightness one.</p>
<p>Schematics:<br />
<a href="https://www.facebook.com/AintBigAintClever/posts/2886650861646591" rel="nofollow">https://www.facebook.com/AintBigAintClever/posts/2886650861646591</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2010/04/28/led-vs-fluorescent-tubes/comment-page-1/#comment-1716726</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2021 07:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Clever tube igniter circuit with schematic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q2Mqelx32w

On one hand this cheaply made light is impressive because of how they&#039;ve managed to strike the tube with the same component that limits current through it.  The tube is also run on AC which is also good.

But as always with these types of mini-light, they start the tube cold-cathode style which causes rapid electrode damage.  And any loose connection causes arcing and instantly visible electrode sputtering stains inside the tube.  This is made somewhat worse by the very sloppy electrical construction which ensures bad connections.

Very interesting to see how they cut corners and got a low component count with standard parts though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clever tube igniter circuit with schematic<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q2Mqelx32w" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q2Mqelx32w</a></p>
<p>On one hand this cheaply made light is impressive because of how they&#8217;ve managed to strike the tube with the same component that limits current through it.  The tube is also run on AC which is also good.</p>
<p>But as always with these types of mini-light, they start the tube cold-cathode style which causes rapid electrode damage.  And any loose connection causes arcing and instantly visible electrode sputtering stains inside the tube.  This is made somewhat worse by the very sloppy electrical construction which ensures bad connections.</p>
<p>Very interesting to see how they cut corners and got a low component count with standard parts though.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2010/04/28/led-vs-fluorescent-tubes/comment-page-1/#comment-1695212</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2020 11:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dimmable mains LED bulbs
http://lednique.com/bulbs/dimmers-for-leds/

Not all mains bulbs are dimmable. Those that are may require special dimmers to operate. In this article we explain how filament lamp dimmers work and some of the issues that can occur with LED lamps.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dimmable mains LED bulbs<br />
<a href="http://lednique.com/bulbs/dimmers-for-leds/" rel="nofollow">http://lednique.com/bulbs/dimmers-for-leds/</a></p>
<p>Not all mains bulbs are dimmable. Those that are may require special dimmers to operate. In this article we explain how filament lamp dimmers work and some of the issues that can occur with LED lamps.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2020 11:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Electrical Considerations of LED Bulbs
https://www.led-professional.com/technology/electronics/electrical-considerations-of-led-bulbs]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Electrical Considerations of LED Bulbs<br />
<a href="https://www.led-professional.com/technology/electronics/electrical-considerations-of-led-bulbs" rel="nofollow">https://www.led-professional.com/technology/electronics/electrical-considerations-of-led-bulbs</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2010/04/28/led-vs-fluorescent-tubes/comment-page-1/#comment-1695210</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2020 11:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AC LED vs. DC LED
https://www.manufacturer.lighting/info/64/

A light emitting diode (LED) is a semiconductor device which includes an N-type semiconductor and a P-type semiconductor, and emits light by way of recombination of holes and electrons. LEDs are intrinsically direct current (DC) devices that only pass current in one polarity and are typically driven by DC voltage sources using resistors, current regulators and voltage regulators to limit the voltage and current delivered to the LED. Because of this, a power supply or &quot;driver&quot; is required for the purpose of converting the mains AC power to a DC voltage or current suitable for driving the LEDs. An LED driver is a self-contained power supply that features outputs corresponding to the electrical characteristics of the array of LEDs. Most LED drivers are designed to provide constant currents to operate the array of LEDs. Consequently, the LEDs that count on a driving circuit to continuously operate at a constant current level are known as DC LEDs.
 
However, an alternating current (AC) source may be employed to drive the LED lighting system. An AC LED is an LED that operates directly out of AC line voltage instead of utilizing a driver to transform the line voltage to direct current (DC) power. An AC LED chip has a plurality of LED units formed on one chip and is assembled into a circuit loop or a Wheatstone bridge to be directly used in an alternating current field. An AC LED is also referred to as a high voltage light emitting diode (HV LED) since it is clear of a current conversion driving component and can be directly employed in mains electricity which is high voltage (220V in Europe or 110 V in the USA) and alternating current (AC).
 
The typical LED luminaire includes a complex driving circuit, which may result in an increase in manufacturing costs, a substantial loss of operating life, less design flexibility as a consequence of increased volume with additional driving and dimming circuits, low power efficiency and system stability.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AC LED vs. DC LED<br />
<a href="https://www.manufacturer.lighting/info/64/" rel="nofollow">https://www.manufacturer.lighting/info/64/</a></p>
<p>A light emitting diode (LED) is a semiconductor device which includes an N-type semiconductor and a P-type semiconductor, and emits light by way of recombination of holes and electrons. LEDs are intrinsically direct current (DC) devices that only pass current in one polarity and are typically driven by DC voltage sources using resistors, current regulators and voltage regulators to limit the voltage and current delivered to the LED. Because of this, a power supply or &#8220;driver&#8221; is required for the purpose of converting the mains AC power to a DC voltage or current suitable for driving the LEDs. An LED driver is a self-contained power supply that features outputs corresponding to the electrical characteristics of the array of LEDs. Most LED drivers are designed to provide constant currents to operate the array of LEDs. Consequently, the LEDs that count on a driving circuit to continuously operate at a constant current level are known as DC LEDs.</p>
<p>However, an alternating current (AC) source may be employed to drive the LED lighting system. An AC LED is an LED that operates directly out of AC line voltage instead of utilizing a driver to transform the line voltage to direct current (DC) power. An AC LED chip has a plurality of LED units formed on one chip and is assembled into a circuit loop or a Wheatstone bridge to be directly used in an alternating current field. An AC LED is also referred to as a high voltage light emitting diode (HV LED) since it is clear of a current conversion driving component and can be directly employed in mains electricity which is high voltage (220V in Europe or 110 V in the USA) and alternating current (AC).</p>
<p>The typical LED luminaire includes a complex driving circuit, which may result in an increase in manufacturing costs, a substantial loss of operating life, less design flexibility as a consequence of increased volume with additional driving and dimming circuits, low power efficiency and system stability.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2010/04/28/led-vs-fluorescent-tubes/comment-page-1/#comment-1695209</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2020 11:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Characterizing and Minimizing LED Flicker in Lighting Applications 
https://www.digikey.com/en/articles/characterizing-and-minimizing-led-flicker-in-lighting-applications

Replacing traditional incandescent lights with efficient, cool, and long-lasting LEDs is a good idea. But like all good ideas, the implementation is a little harder than coming up with the notion in the first place.

Although LED lights can be supplied with driver circuitry to allow them to be connected to the existing domestic AC power supply, there is a risk that flickering could occur as a result of voltage ripple at the supply’s output. Flickering occurs with most lighting, and some consumers complain that the effect makes them feel uncomfortable or even ill.

LED and luminaire manufacturers are keen to get to the root of the problem, because should solid-state lighting get a reputation for flickering – however undeserved – convincing consumers to move away from traditional lights will become more difficult.

This article investigates the cause of flickering, describes why it is a particular problem for LEDs, and explains how engineering administrative and standards-making bodies are trying to quantify the phenomenon for test houses and the LED, driver chip, and luminaire makers. The article will then describe some recent product introductions from major silicon vendors that claim to offer a cost-effective way of implementing flicker-free LED lighting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Characterizing and Minimizing LED Flicker in Lighting Applications<br />
<a href="https://www.digikey.com/en/articles/characterizing-and-minimizing-led-flicker-in-lighting-applications" rel="nofollow">https://www.digikey.com/en/articles/characterizing-and-minimizing-led-flicker-in-lighting-applications</a></p>
<p>Replacing traditional incandescent lights with efficient, cool, and long-lasting LEDs is a good idea. But like all good ideas, the implementation is a little harder than coming up with the notion in the first place.</p>
<p>Although LED lights can be supplied with driver circuitry to allow them to be connected to the existing domestic AC power supply, there is a risk that flickering could occur as a result of voltage ripple at the supply’s output. Flickering occurs with most lighting, and some consumers complain that the effect makes them feel uncomfortable or even ill.</p>
<p>LED and luminaire manufacturers are keen to get to the root of the problem, because should solid-state lighting get a reputation for flickering – however undeserved – convincing consumers to move away from traditional lights will become more difficult.</p>
<p>This article investigates the cause of flickering, describes why it is a particular problem for LEDs, and explains how engineering administrative and standards-making bodies are trying to quantify the phenomenon for test houses and the LED, driver chip, and luminaire makers. The article will then describe some recent product introductions from major silicon vendors that claim to offer a cost-effective way of implementing flicker-free LED lighting.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2010/04/28/led-vs-fluorescent-tubes/comment-page-1/#comment-1695208</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2020 11:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What Causes LED Flicker?
https://www.admesy.com/causes-led-flicker/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Causes LED Flicker?<br />
<a href="https://www.admesy.com/causes-led-flicker/" rel="nofollow">https://www.admesy.com/causes-led-flicker/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2010/04/28/led-vs-fluorescent-tubes/comment-page-1/#comment-1695207</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2020 11:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SMPS LED Drivers: Advantages and Disadvantages
https://www.manufacturer.lighting/info/67/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SMPS LED Drivers: Advantages and Disadvantages<br />
<a href="https://www.manufacturer.lighting/info/67/" rel="nofollow">https://www.manufacturer.lighting/info/67/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2020 11:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Analysis and Control of Electrolytic Capacitor-Less LED Driver ...
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwie5fX9gMPsAhVxsYsKHXefBfMQFjAOegQICRAC&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mdpi.com%2F1996-1073%2F11%2F11%2F3030%2Fpdf&amp;usg=AOvVaw2qDy5UWfVfKAs0L_xHHx6g]]></description>
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