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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2012/04/16/a-new-ide-concept/comment-page-1/#comment-23074</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2012 07:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Light Table - a new IDE concept
http://www.chris-granger.com/2012/04/12/light-table---a-new-ide-concept/


The future is specific
http://www.chris-granger.com/2012/05/21/the-future-is-specific/

I&#039;m going to make a bold claim: The future of tools isn&#039;t in a better Eclipse or Visual Studio, it&#039;s in easily created domain specific experiences.

Light Table at KickStarter
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/306316578/light-table


Light Table uhoaa uudistavansa IDE:n idean
http://www.tietoviikko.fi/kehittaja/light+table+uhoaa+uudistavansa+iden+idean/a811564?s=r&amp;wtm=tietoviikko/-28052012&amp;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Light Table &#8211; a new IDE concept<br />
<a href="http://www.chris-granger.com/2012/04/12/light-table---a-new-ide-concept/" rel="nofollow">http://www.chris-granger.com/2012/04/12/light-table&#8212;a-new-ide-concept/</a></p>
<p>The future is specific<br />
<a href="http://www.chris-granger.com/2012/05/21/the-future-is-specific/" rel="nofollow">http://www.chris-granger.com/2012/05/21/the-future-is-specific/</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to make a bold claim: The future of tools isn&#8217;t in a better Eclipse or Visual Studio, it&#8217;s in easily created domain specific experiences.</p>
<p>Light Table at KickStarter<br />
<a href="http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/306316578/light-table" rel="nofollow">http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/306316578/light-table</a></p>
<p>Light Table uhoaa uudistavansa IDE:n idean<br />
<a href="http://www.tietoviikko.fi/kehittaja/light+table+uhoaa+uudistavansa+iden+idean/a811564?s=r&#038;wtm=tietoviikko/-28052012&#038;amp" rel="nofollow">http://www.tietoviikko.fi/kehittaja/light+table+uhoaa+uudistavansa+iden+idean/a811564?s=r&#038;wtm=tietoviikko/-28052012&#038;amp</a>;</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2012/04/16/a-new-ide-concept/comment-page-1/#comment-23073</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems that also Slashdot has noticed this same topic:

Light Table: A New Spin on the IDE
http://developers.slashdot.org/story/12/04/16/1240220/light-table-a-new-spin-on-the-ide

Bret Victor demoed the idea of instant feedback on your code. ... Allowing the programmer to instantly see what his program is doing.

The screenshots make this look like it could be genuinely useful

There&#039;s a Google group for those wanting to track development. There&#039;s no code yet, but source is promised

As such, I believe it only fair that the core of Light Table be open sourced once it is launched, while some of the plugins may remained closed source

COMMENT:

Here&#039;s the funding plan:
I&#039;m happy to announce that we submitted our Kickstarter earlier today and are simply waiting for it to be reviewed.

In other news, to save everyone the time, I&#039;ll point out that 100 people are going to post the lighttable does what smalltalk did in the 80s. As with all IT and most CS stuff, there really is nothing new under the sun, just recycling. That doesn&#039;t mean its bad, or reimplementation of a good idea is bad, just that it isn&#039;t new.

I&#039;ve been thinking about this for a while and I think we do need a new generation of IDE which isn&#039;t based around showing source files in tabs, but rather code snippets (functions, class definitions etc.) on some kind of desktop. When I&#039;m debugging code I don&#039;t want to jump through X files, I just want to see the X related functions so I can understand the programs flow etc.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that also Slashdot has noticed this same topic:</p>
<p>Light Table: A New Spin on the IDE<br />
<a href="http://developers.slashdot.org/story/12/04/16/1240220/light-table-a-new-spin-on-the-ide" rel="nofollow">http://developers.slashdot.org/story/12/04/16/1240220/light-table-a-new-spin-on-the-ide</a></p>
<p>Bret Victor demoed the idea of instant feedback on your code. &#8230; Allowing the programmer to instantly see what his program is doing.</p>
<p>The screenshots make this look like it could be genuinely useful</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a Google group for those wanting to track development. There&#8217;s no code yet, but source is promised</p>
<p>As such, I believe it only fair that the core of Light Table be open sourced once it is launched, while some of the plugins may remained closed source</p>
<p>COMMENT:</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the funding plan:<br />
I&#8217;m happy to announce that we submitted our Kickstarter earlier today and are simply waiting for it to be reviewed.</p>
<p>In other news, to save everyone the time, I&#8217;ll point out that 100 people are going to post the lighttable does what smalltalk did in the 80s. As with all IT and most CS stuff, there really is nothing new under the sun, just recycling. That doesn&#8217;t mean its bad, or reimplementation of a good idea is bad, just that it isn&#8217;t new.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking about this for a while and I think we do need a new generation of IDE which isn&#8217;t based around showing source files in tabs, but rather code snippets (functions, class definitions etc.) on some kind of desktop. When I&#8217;m debugging code I don&#8217;t want to jump through X files, I just want to see the X related functions so I can understand the programs flow etc.</p>
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