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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2012/05/21/eliminating-ground-loops-in-audio-and-video-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-1807599</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2023 11:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jun 2023 15:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[https://community.element14.com/learn/learning-center/the-tech-connection/w/documents/28100/how-to-reduce-common-mode-noise-in-audio-applications?CMP=SMA-FACEBOOK-PRG-TECHSPOTLIGHT-BELFUSE-REDUCECOMMONMODENOISE-COMM&amp;fbclid=IwAR0KxB-1HvqA4Mir3Om6tLq_TAfsOfcyc6OOk9yu9Llm9cFpK2h4pIAZQJc_aem_th_AagTochvyHP265WLuDDvedAfLV-PFfV2Tk0ofTJabYvTsQYy6IN3e5rZJoLEKJR05Hl_GLZmASyrw1oxvb_SY_w8]]></description>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2012/05/21/eliminating-ground-loops-in-audio-and-video-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-1712597</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2021 12:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In electronics, a distribution amplifier, or simply distribution amp or DA, is a device that accepts a single input signal and provides this same signal to multiple isolated outputs. These devices allow a signal to be distributed to multiple destinations without ground loops or signal degradation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distribution_amplifier

An Audio Distribution Amplifier also known as: a press feed; a pool feed; a media feed; press box; or an ADA, takes a single audio feed, usually a line input, but it may be a microphone input, and outputs multiple line or microphone outputs. This can be done using a passive feed, where the signal is split among the outputs, or as an active feed where the outputs are amplified. The primary use of the Audio Distribution Amplifier is to share a single audio feed with multiple members of the press pool. Thus the names press feed, pool feed and media feed.[

A Video Distribution Amplifier (also known as a distribution amp or VDA) takes a video signal as an input, amplifies it, and outputs the amplified video signal to two or more outputs. It is primarily used to supply a single video signal to multiple pieces of video equipment. It adjusts the amplitude of a video signal to compensate for loss of signal in a video distribution system. Extending the distance of the video signal is the main purpose of the VDA.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In electronics, a distribution amplifier, or simply distribution amp or DA, is a device that accepts a single input signal and provides this same signal to multiple isolated outputs. These devices allow a signal to be distributed to multiple destinations without ground loops or signal degradation.</p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distribution_amplifier" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distribution_amplifier</a></p>
<p>An Audio Distribution Amplifier also known as: a press feed; a pool feed; a media feed; press box; or an ADA, takes a single audio feed, usually a line input, but it may be a microphone input, and outputs multiple line or microphone outputs. This can be done using a passive feed, where the signal is split among the outputs, or as an active feed where the outputs are amplified. The primary use of the Audio Distribution Amplifier is to share a single audio feed with multiple members of the press pool. Thus the names press feed, pool feed and media feed.[</p>
<p>A Video Distribution Amplifier (also known as a distribution amp or VDA) takes a video signal as an input, amplifies it, and outputs the amplified video signal to two or more outputs. It is primarily used to supply a single video signal to multiple pieces of video equipment. It adjusts the amplitude of a video signal to compensate for loss of signal in a video distribution system. Extending the distance of the video signal is the main purpose of the VDA.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2012/05/21/eliminating-ground-loops-in-audio-and-video-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-1707706</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2021 08:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Earth Terminal Voltage Drop TN-C-S
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iozyjrPmY7U

How the earth terminal on a TN-C-S supply can be at a different voltage to the true Earth.

As the neutral and earth conductor are combined outside the installation, current in the neutral causes a voltage drop, which results in the earth terminal having a different potential (voltage) to the true Earth outside.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Earth Terminal Voltage Drop TN-C-S<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iozyjrPmY7U" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iozyjrPmY7U</a></p>
<p>How the earth terminal on a TN-C-S supply can be at a different voltage to the true Earth.</p>
<p>As the neutral and earth conductor are combined outside the installation, current in the neutral causes a voltage drop, which results in the earth terminal having a different potential (voltage) to the true Earth outside.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2012/05/21/eliminating-ground-loops-in-audio-and-video-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-1621515</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2019 19:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[KRAMER WHITE PAPER
GROUND LOOPS IN THE AV WORLD 
https://k.kramerav.com/downloads/white-papers/ground_loops_4.pdf]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KRAMER WHITE PAPER<br />
GROUND LOOPS IN THE AV WORLD<br />
<a href="https://k.kramerav.com/downloads/white-papers/ground_loops_4.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://k.kramerav.com/downloads/white-papers/ground_loops_4.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2012/05/21/eliminating-ground-loops-in-audio-and-video-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-1617570</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2018 11:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#51 - How To: Splitting, Balancing &amp; Isolating Line Level Audio signals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ50iyMWA7c

 information &amp; resources about transformers and splitting line level audio signals. 

#021 Transformer Isolated Passive Mic Splitters!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_gl1RIXVFU

In this video we take an inside look at passive transformer isolated microphone splitters and how we use them in the real world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#51 &#8211; How To: Splitting, Balancing &amp; Isolating Line Level Audio signals.<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ50iyMWA7c" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ50iyMWA7c</a></p>
<p> information &amp; resources about transformers and splitting line level audio signals. </p>
<p>#021 Transformer Isolated Passive Mic Splitters!<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_gl1RIXVFU" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_gl1RIXVFU</a></p>
<p>In this video we take an inside look at passive transformer isolated microphone splitters and how we use them in the real world.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2012/05/21/eliminating-ground-loops-in-audio-and-video-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-1614621</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2018 12:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[https://hifiwigwam.com/forum/topic/92390-grounding-box/

If you maintain all original earth connections, then adding another one is more likely to induce ground loop hum than cure it.

This paragraph says it all to me: “If you can effectively remove or drain away the pollutants, stray magnetic currents and impedance fluctuations before they contaminate the sound, there becomes no need for the active synthetic filters &amp; other such devices commonly recommended by many manufacturers. Our ground box’s are surprisingly heavy, feeling very solid and robust. However we do not talk about the specifics of construction, materials or any of the development technology housed within any of our products, especially the range of Ground Boxs.”

FFS, they can’t even spell ‘boxes’. And if anyone can explain to me how these will ‘drain away pollutants’ I’d love to know.

Total and complete bullshit, without even bothering to try and explain.

Very good point Serge but people see what they want to see and hear what they want to hear]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://hifiwigwam.com/forum/topic/92390-grounding-box/" rel="nofollow">https://hifiwigwam.com/forum/topic/92390-grounding-box/</a></p>
<p>If you maintain all original earth connections, then adding another one is more likely to induce ground loop hum than cure it.</p>
<p>This paragraph says it all to me: “If you can effectively remove or drain away the pollutants, stray magnetic currents and impedance fluctuations before they contaminate the sound, there becomes no need for the active synthetic filters &amp; other such devices commonly recommended by many manufacturers. Our ground box’s are surprisingly heavy, feeling very solid and robust. However we do not talk about the specifics of construction, materials or any of the development technology housed within any of our products, especially the range of Ground Boxs.”</p>
<p>FFS, they can’t even spell ‘boxes’. And if anyone can explain to me how these will ‘drain away pollutants’ I’d love to know.</p>
<p>Total and complete bullshit, without even bothering to try and explain.</p>
<p>Very good point Serge but people see what they want to see and hear what they want to hear</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2012/05/21/eliminating-ground-loops-in-audio-and-video-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-1614619</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2018 11:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/ground-box-what-s-in-them

A few years back a friend of mine bought some very expensive P*D cables, forgot the name but it was something about 3-4k per meter, after a while he wanted better connectors and opened the cable. Guess what he found? Belden computer cables, thin, cheap, surrounded by big foam. He was really mad about that... the question is: Do you really want to know what you have bought?

Syntax, I remember someone posting pictures of the inside of the Transparent &quot;boxes&quot; that are on their cables and it was just silicone glue and I think a resistor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/ground-box-what-s-in-them" rel="nofollow">https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/ground-box-what-s-in-them</a></p>
<p>A few years back a friend of mine bought some very expensive P*D cables, forgot the name but it was something about 3-4k per meter, after a while he wanted better connectors and opened the cable. Guess what he found? Belden computer cables, thin, cheap, surrounded by big foam. He was really mad about that&#8230; the question is: Do you really want to know what you have bought?</p>
<p>Syntax, I remember someone posting pictures of the inside of the Transparent &#8220;boxes&#8221; that are on their cables and it was just silicone glue and I think a resistor.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2012/05/21/eliminating-ground-loops-in-audio-and-video-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-1614618</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2018 11:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is real expert information:

Bill Withlock Ground Papers

An Overview of Audio System
Grounding and Interfacing
https://centralindianaaes.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/indy-aes-2012-seminar-w-notes-v1-0.pdf]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is real expert information:</p>
<p>Bill Withlock Ground Papers</p>
<p>An Overview of Audio System<br />
Grounding and Interfacing<br />
<a href="https://centralindianaaes.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/indy-aes-2012-seminar-w-notes-v1-0.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://centralindianaaes.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/indy-aes-2012-seminar-w-notes-v1-0.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2012/05/21/eliminating-ground-loops-in-audio-and-video-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-1614617</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2018 11:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Review: Entreq Olympus Tellus Grounding Box
https://parttimeaudiophile.com/2018/04/08/review-entreq-olympus-tellus-grounding-box/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Review: Entreq Olympus Tellus Grounding Box<br />
<a href="https://parttimeaudiophile.com/2018/04/08/review-entreq-olympus-tellus-grounding-box/" rel="nofollow">https://parttimeaudiophile.com/2018/04/08/review-entreq-olympus-tellus-grounding-box/</a></p>
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