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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2012/08/29/get-rid-of-java-now/comment-page-2/#comment-1841249</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Dec 2024 19:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Java Applet API heads for the exit
https://www.infoworld.com/article/3623579/java-applet-api-heads-for-the-exit.html

OpenJDK proposal would finally remove the ‘terminally deprecated’ API that neither the JDK nor web browsers support.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Java Applet API heads for the exit<br />
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<p>OpenJDK proposal would finally remove the ‘terminally deprecated’ API that neither the JDK nor web browsers support.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2012/08/29/get-rid-of-java-now/comment-page-2/#comment-1776080</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2022 12:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bye bye! It&#039;s Finally the End of Life of Java 7
https://coderoasis.com/java-7-end-of-life/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bye bye! It&#8217;s Finally the End of Life of Java 7<br />
<a href="https://coderoasis.com/java-7-end-of-life/" rel="nofollow">https://coderoasis.com/java-7-end-of-life/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2012/08/29/get-rid-of-java-now/comment-page-2/#comment-1555369</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2017 07:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Universities finally realize that Java is a bad introductory programming language
https://thenextweb.com/dd/2017/04/24/universities-finally-realize-java-bad-introductory-programming-language/#.tnw_rCxo4cg8

Java is popular, certainly, but it’s also extremely clunky and syntactically bloated.

But a new version of the course, CS 106J is based on JavaScript.

According to the University website, “[CS 106J] covers the same material as CS 106A but does so using JavaScript, the most common language for implementing interactive web pages, instead of Java.”

The decision to ditch Java is a laudable one. While there’s a lot to like about it, Java is perhaps the harshest language you can learn as a beginner. In fact, in this respect, it’s straight-up awful.

Because, here’s the thing. Programming is fun – or at least, it should be. It shouldn’t be scary, but rather a fundamentally creative endeavor that can lead to an amazing career.

By teaching Java, you risk associating programming with something tedious and difficult in the minds of beginners, and run the risk of them switching to something less arduous.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Universities finally realize that Java is a bad introductory programming language<br />
<a href="https://thenextweb.com/dd/2017/04/24/universities-finally-realize-java-bad-introductory-programming-language/#.tnw_rCxo4cg8" rel="nofollow">https://thenextweb.com/dd/2017/04/24/universities-finally-realize-java-bad-introductory-programming-language/#.tnw_rCxo4cg8</a></p>
<p>Java is popular, certainly, but it’s also extremely clunky and syntactically bloated.</p>
<p>But a new version of the course, CS 106J is based on JavaScript.</p>
<p>According to the University website, “[CS 106J] covers the same material as CS 106A but does so using JavaScript, the most common language for implementing interactive web pages, instead of Java.”</p>
<p>The decision to ditch Java is a laudable one. While there’s a lot to like about it, Java is perhaps the harshest language you can learn as a beginner. In fact, in this respect, it’s straight-up awful.</p>
<p>Because, here’s the thing. Programming is fun – or at least, it should be. It shouldn’t be scary, but rather a fundamentally creative endeavor that can lead to an amazing career.</p>
<p>By teaching Java, you risk associating programming with something tedious and difficult in the minds of beginners, and run the risk of them switching to something less arduous.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2012/08/29/get-rid-of-java-now/comment-page-2/#comment-1469936</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2016 10:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Goodbye Applets: Another Cruddy Piece of Web Tech Is Finally Going Away
http://www.wired.com/2016/01/goodbye-applets-another-cruddy-piece-of-web-tech-is-finally-going-away/

Another piece of old, insecure web infrastructure is about to be killed off.

Oracle says that it’s discontinuing its Java browser plugin starting with the next big release of the programming language. No, Oracle isn’t killing the Java programming language itself, which is still widely used by many companies. Nor is it killing off JavaScript, which is a completely different language that Oracle doesn’t control. What Oracle is getting rid of is a plugin that allows you to run programs known as “Java applets” in your browser.

You not think you even have the Java plugin installed, but if you’ve ever installed Java, or if Java came pre-installed on your computer, then you probably do, even if you never use it. The good news is that Oracle won’t be automatically installing the Java plugin when you install Java anymore. The bad news is that it won’t be providing security updates anymore either, so you should go ahead and uninstall it now. In fact, there’s a good chance you can uninstall Java entirely.

With Microsoft dropping support for old versions of Internet Explorer and Adobe slowly phasing out Flash, it looks like a nightmarish era for web security is finally drawing to an end.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goodbye Applets: Another Cruddy Piece of Web Tech Is Finally Going Away<br />
<a href="http://www.wired.com/2016/01/goodbye-applets-another-cruddy-piece-of-web-tech-is-finally-going-away/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wired.com/2016/01/goodbye-applets-another-cruddy-piece-of-web-tech-is-finally-going-away/</a></p>
<p>Another piece of old, insecure web infrastructure is about to be killed off.</p>
<p>Oracle says that it’s discontinuing its Java browser plugin starting with the next big release of the programming language. No, Oracle isn’t killing the Java programming language itself, which is still widely used by many companies. Nor is it killing off JavaScript, which is a completely different language that Oracle doesn’t control. What Oracle is getting rid of is a plugin that allows you to run programs known as “Java applets” in your browser.</p>
<p>You not think you even have the Java plugin installed, but if you’ve ever installed Java, or if Java came pre-installed on your computer, then you probably do, even if you never use it. The good news is that Oracle won’t be automatically installing the Java plugin when you install Java anymore. The bad news is that it won’t be providing security updates anymore either, so you should go ahead and uninstall it now. In fact, there’s a good chance you can uninstall Java entirely.</p>
<p>With Microsoft dropping support for old versions of Internet Explorer and Adobe slowly phasing out Flash, it looks like a nightmarish era for web security is finally drawing to an end.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2012/08/29/get-rid-of-java-now/comment-page-2/#comment-1466431</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2016 12:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Disabling Java Plugins
https://www.f-secure.com/en/web/labs_global/disabling-java-plugins

 Many security researchers and national computer security organizations caution users to limit their usage of the Java Runtime Environment (JRE), unless required for business reasons, or to remove it entirely, including disabling Java plug-ins in web browsers.

Listed below are instructions for disabling Java plug-ins or add-ons in common web browsers ( based on the advice given by the US-CERT Vulnerability Note VU#636312).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disabling Java Plugins<br />
<a href="https://www.f-secure.com/en/web/labs_global/disabling-java-plugins" rel="nofollow">https://www.f-secure.com/en/web/labs_global/disabling-java-plugins</a></p>
<p> Many security researchers and national computer security organizations caution users to limit their usage of the Java Runtime Environment (JRE), unless required for business reasons, or to remove it entirely, including disabling Java plug-ins in web browsers.</p>
<p>Listed below are instructions for disabling Java plug-ins or add-ons in common web browsers ( based on the advice given by the US-CERT Vulnerability Note VU#636312).</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2012/08/29/get-rid-of-java-now/comment-page-2/#comment-1454263</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2015 12:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[3 Billion Devices And A Sega Genesis Run Java
http://hackaday.com/2015/11/23/3-billion-devices-and-a-sega-genesis-run-java/

A few years ago, [Mike]’s friend gave him an old Sega Genesis with the very cool and somewhat rare SegaCD drive attached. The SegaCD gave him an idea – while it’s not easy to burn a cartridge and play homebrew games on a real Genesis console, everyone has a CD burner somewhere. [Mike] began writing his demo and then realized adding Java would be easy on the 68000. The result is Java on three billion devices and a Sega Genesis.

This project is built around Java Grinder a Java byte code compiler that will compile classes, factories, and all the horrible Java design.design.pattern.pattern.patterns() into assembly language. Already, there are a lot of platforms supported by Java Grinder, including the Commodore 64, the TI99, and thanks to some work from [Joe Davisson], the Apple IIgs

Java Grinder
http://www.mikekohn.net/micro/java_grinder.php]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3 Billion Devices And A Sega Genesis Run Java<br />
<a href="http://hackaday.com/2015/11/23/3-billion-devices-and-a-sega-genesis-run-java/" rel="nofollow">http://hackaday.com/2015/11/23/3-billion-devices-and-a-sega-genesis-run-java/</a></p>
<p>A few years ago, [Mike]’s friend gave him an old Sega Genesis with the very cool and somewhat rare SegaCD drive attached. The SegaCD gave him an idea – while it’s not easy to burn a cartridge and play homebrew games on a real Genesis console, everyone has a CD burner somewhere. [Mike] began writing his demo and then realized adding Java would be easy on the 68000. The result is Java on three billion devices and a Sega Genesis.</p>
<p>This project is built around Java Grinder a Java byte code compiler that will compile classes, factories, and all the horrible Java design.design.pattern.pattern.patterns() into assembly language. Already, there are a lot of platforms supported by Java Grinder, including the Commodore 64, the TI99, and thanks to some work from [Joe Davisson], the Apple IIgs</p>
<p>Java Grinder<br />
<a href="http://www.mikekohn.net/micro/java_grinder.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.mikekohn.net/micro/java_grinder.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2012/08/29/get-rid-of-java-now/comment-page-2/#comment-1413146</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2015 08:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How the next Java update could make Yahoo your default search provider
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2940572/how-the-next-java-update-could-make-yahoo-your-default-search-provider.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How the next Java update could make Yahoo your default search provider<br />
<a href="http://www.pcworld.com/article/2940572/how-the-next-java-update-could-make-yahoo-your-default-search-provider.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pcworld.com/article/2940572/how-the-next-java-update-could-make-yahoo-your-default-search-provider.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2012/08/29/get-rid-of-java-now/comment-page-2/#comment-1386904</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2015 09:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oracle has finished the Java 7&#039;s updates and security fixes. Normal users, this is not just swing, but the developers cessation of support can be a problem. However, Oracle also sells technical support for Java 7 of the developers.

Basic Users java is updated automatically from the beginning of the year. Oracle now encourages all users to upgrade to Java 8

Java is imported next year for 9 version. Oracle, the release takes place in September next year. The biggest change in Java will be the fact that the source code becomes modular.

Source: http://etn.fi/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=2797:java-7-ei-saa-enaa-korjauksia&amp;catid=13&amp;Itemid=101]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oracle has finished the Java 7&#8242;s updates and security fixes. Normal users, this is not just swing, but the developers cessation of support can be a problem. However, Oracle also sells technical support for Java 7 of the developers.</p>
<p>Basic Users java is updated automatically from the beginning of the year. Oracle now encourages all users to upgrade to Java 8</p>
<p>Java is imported next year for 9 version. Oracle, the release takes place in September next year. The biggest change in Java will be the fact that the source code becomes modular.</p>
<p>Source: <a href="http://etn.fi/index.php?option=com_content&#038;view=article&#038;id=2797:java-7-ei-saa-enaa-korjauksia&#038;catid=13&#038;Itemid=101" rel="nofollow">http://etn.fi/index.php?option=com_content&#038;view=article&#038;id=2797:java-7-ei-saa-enaa-korjauksia&#038;catid=13&#038;Itemid=101</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2012/08/29/get-rid-of-java-now/comment-page-2/#comment-1229342</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2014 13:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very popular exploit nowdays (third most popular PC exploit):

Exploit:Java/Majava.A identifies malicious files that exploit vulnerabilities in the Java Runtime Environment (JRE). 
http://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/exploit_java_majava_a.shtml

Exploit:Java/Majava.A is a Generic Detection that identifies exploit files used to target and exploit vulnerabilities in the Java Runtime Environment (JRE).

If successfully used, exploits can provide an attacker with a wide range of possible actions, from viewing data on a restricted-user database to almost complete control of a compromised system. 

to prevent successful exploitation, please ensure you install the latest updates available for Java and/or remove any old, unnecessary installations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very popular exploit nowdays (third most popular PC exploit):</p>
<p>Exploit:Java/Majava.A identifies malicious files that exploit vulnerabilities in the Java Runtime Environment (JRE).<br />
<a href="http://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/exploit_java_majava_a.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/exploit_java_majava_a.shtml</a></p>
<p>Exploit:Java/Majava.A is a Generic Detection that identifies exploit files used to target and exploit vulnerabilities in the Java Runtime Environment (JRE).</p>
<p>If successfully used, exploits can provide an attacker with a wide range of possible actions, from viewing data on a restricted-user database to almost complete control of a compromised system. </p>
<p>to prevent successful exploitation, please ensure you install the latest updates available for Java and/or remove any old, unnecessary installations.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2012/08/29/get-rid-of-java-now/comment-page-2/#comment-987369</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2014 09:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Java Wasn&#039;t Cool 10 Years Ago, What About Now? 
http://developers.slashdot.org/story/14/08/24/1758222/if-java-wasnt-cool-10-years-ago-what-about-now

10 years ago today on this site, readers answered the question &quot;Why is Java considered un-cool?&quot; 10 years later, Java might not be hip, but it&#039;s certainly stuck around.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Java Wasn&#8217;t Cool 10 Years Ago, What About Now?<br />
<a href="http://developers.slashdot.org/story/14/08/24/1758222/if-java-wasnt-cool-10-years-ago-what-about-now" rel="nofollow">http://developers.slashdot.org/story/14/08/24/1758222/if-java-wasnt-cool-10-years-ago-what-about-now</a></p>
<p>10 years ago today on this site, readers answered the question &#8220;Why is Java considered un-cool?&#8221; 10 years later, Java might not be hip, but it&#8217;s certainly stuck around.</p>
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