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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2014/03/21/usb-to-rs485-adapter/comment-page-1/#comment-1763460</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2022 14:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hacker Dictionary: RS-485 Will Go The Distance
https://hackaday.com/2022/04/05/hacker-dictionary-rs-485-will-go-the-distance/

RS485 is a communication standard that should be part of the advanced hardware hacker’s arsenal; it’s not commonly encountered, but powerful exactly when you need it. It’s a physical layer interface for wired communications that uses a single differential pair for noise immunity, has good long-distance properties, and allows many connections to a single bus. Because of that, you will encounter it in security systems and even cameras, wired sensor networks, DMX512 lighting and all sorts of industrial electronics. For our hobbyist goals, you can absolutely use RS485 to build your home (or room) automation system, or a relatively large robot – without all those worries that wireless brings.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hacker Dictionary: RS-485 Will Go The Distance<br />
<a href="https://hackaday.com/2022/04/05/hacker-dictionary-rs-485-will-go-the-distance/" rel="nofollow">https://hackaday.com/2022/04/05/hacker-dictionary-rs-485-will-go-the-distance/</a></p>
<p>RS485 is a communication standard that should be part of the advanced hardware hacker’s arsenal; it’s not commonly encountered, but powerful exactly when you need it. It’s a physical layer interface for wired communications that uses a single differential pair for noise immunity, has good long-distance properties, and allows many connections to a single bus. Because of that, you will encounter it in security systems and even cameras, wired sensor networks, DMX512 lighting and all sorts of industrial electronics. For our hobbyist goals, you can absolutely use RS485 to build your home (or room) automation system, or a relatively large robot – without all those worries that wireless brings.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2014/03/21/usb-to-rs485-adapter/comment-page-1/#comment-1763459</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2022 14:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[USB To RS-232 Adapter Hacked To Use RS485 Instead
https://hackaday.com/2012/10/08/usb-to-rs-232-adapter-hacked-to-use-rs485-instead/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>USB To RS-232 Adapter Hacked To Use RS485 Instead<br />
<a href="https://hackaday.com/2012/10/08/usb-to-rs-232-adapter-hacked-to-use-rs485-instead/" rel="nofollow">https://hackaday.com/2012/10/08/usb-to-rs-232-adapter-hacked-to-use-rs485-instead/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2014/03/21/usb-to-rs485-adapter/comment-page-1/#comment-1603861</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Typically in RS-485 loops the adapters do not have line termination in them (unless on same cases they have switches to turn line termination on/off). 

The RS-485 line is typically terminated with 110-120 ohms resistance on both ends of the line (on short lines you might be able to live with termination on one end or even no termination sometimes).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typically in RS-485 loops the adapters do not have line termination in them (unless on same cases they have switches to turn line termination on/off). </p>
<p>The RS-485 line is typically terminated with 110-120 ohms resistance on both ends of the line (on short lines you might be able to live with termination on one end or even no termination sometimes).</p>
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		<title>By: Wolf_</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wolf_]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2018 15:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi,

One question that I cant figure out. I dont have any experience with modbus and RS485.

I have order several of thouse USB to RS485 adapter (haven&#039;t got them yet). So to my question. I have a RTU modbus slave I liked
to communicate with. Is it enouhg to connect to wires between my USB adapter and modbus slave (TX and RX)?. What about the resistance that should be in the loop of a RS485 communication? Is this inside the USB adapter?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>One question that I cant figure out. I dont have any experience with modbus and RS485.</p>
<p>I have order several of thouse USB to RS485 adapter (haven&#8217;t got them yet). So to my question. I have a RTU modbus slave I liked<br />
to communicate with. Is it enouhg to connect to wires between my USB adapter and modbus slave (TX and RX)?. What about the resistance that should be in the loop of a RS485 communication? Is this inside the USB adapter?</p>
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		<title>By: Antonio</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2014/03/21/usb-to-rs485-adapter/comment-page-1/#comment-1599119</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Antonio]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2018 09:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the post. This adapter was detected by my Linux Ubuntu Xenial as QinHeng Electronics HL-340 USB-Serial adapter and the kernel automatically loaded ch341 module. It works, even on an Oracle Virtual Box Windows XP with the proper driver loaded (CH341SER). The only mod I did was to install a ground wire running from the USB connector shield to the ground of the target circuitry. TX control by RTS/DTR was found working as it should.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the post. This adapter was detected by my Linux Ubuntu Xenial as QinHeng Electronics HL-340 USB-Serial adapter and the kernel automatically loaded ch341 module. It works, even on an Oracle Virtual Box Windows XP with the proper driver loaded (CH341SER). The only mod I did was to install a ground wire running from the USB connector shield to the ground of the target circuitry. TX control by RTS/DTR was found working as it should.</p>
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		<title>By: stavros</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stavros]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2018 15:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good day i am cctv installer in Athens Greece
i have to connect  
a HIKVISION DVR DS-7216HQHIK1 with USB input for keypad 
and 
a HIKVISION DS 1003KI KEYPAD CONTROLLER with RS485 Half-duplex
Baud Rate : 12~19200bps

what module converter do you recoment ?

what cost and how soon you ship out .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good day i am cctv installer in Athens Greece<br />
i have to connect<br />
a HIKVISION DVR DS-7216HQHIK1 with USB input for keypad<br />
and<br />
a HIKVISION DS 1003KI KEYPAD CONTROLLER with RS485 Half-duplex<br />
Baud Rate : 12~19200bps</p>
<p>what module converter do you recoment ?</p>
<p>what cost and how soon you ship out .</p>
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		<title>By: H Amir</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2014/03/21/usb-to-rs485-adapter/comment-page-1/#comment-1574981</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H Amir]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2017 21:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, this article solved my problem with find driver]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, this article solved my problem with find driver</p>
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		<title>By: gaoodgle.com</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gaoodgle.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks on your marvelous posting! I genuinely enjoyed reading it, you happen to be a 
great author. I will make sure to bookmark your blog and may come back later 
on. I want to encourage you to ultimately continue your 
great work, have a nice weekend!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks on your marvelous posting! I genuinely enjoyed reading it, you happen to be a<br />
great author. I will make sure to bookmark your blog and may come back later<br />
on. I want to encourage you to ultimately continue your<br />
great work, have a nice weekend!</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2016 09:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Understanding RS-485 passive fail-safe biasing
http://www.edn.com/design/analog/4442598/Understanding-RS-485-passive-fail-safe-biasing-?_mc=NL_EDN_EDT_EDN_weekly_20160825&amp;cid=NL_EDN_EDT_EDN_weekly_20160825&amp;elqTrackId=984125dee6db498f92125f3d6ff1ebd4&amp;elq=10bc8150a4de4c878cd07ccabbc27c00&amp;elqaid=33591&amp;elqat=1&amp;elqCampaignId=29365

With RS-485 networks, there are periods of time when no driver is actively driving the bus, such as when one driver relinquishes the bus to another driver. During this time, the termination resistors collapse the differential bus voltage to 0V, which is an undefined input level for many RS-485 receivers. Faced with this undefined input, a receiver might output the wrong logic state or worse yet, it might oscillate. The oscillation may be interpreted as an endless stream of message start bits, causing the controller to waste valuable bandwidth trying to service these phantom messages. Fail-safe bus biasing is one way to alleviate this problem.
 

Passive fail-safe biasing is accomplished through resistor networks of pull-up, termination, and pull-down resistors whose voltage divider action provide a differential dc bus voltage, VAB, when no driver is actively driving the bus]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Understanding RS-485 passive fail-safe biasing<br />
<a href="http://www.edn.com/design/analog/4442598/Understanding-RS-485-passive-fail-safe-biasing-?_mc=NL_EDN_EDT_EDN_weekly_20160825&#038;cid=NL_EDN_EDT_EDN_weekly_20160825&#038;elqTrackId=984125dee6db498f92125f3d6ff1ebd4&#038;elq=10bc8150a4de4c878cd07ccabbc27c00&#038;elqaid=33591&#038;elqat=1&#038;elqCampaignId=29365" rel="nofollow">http://www.edn.com/design/analog/4442598/Understanding-RS-485-passive-fail-safe-biasing-?_mc=NL_EDN_EDT_EDN_weekly_20160825&#038;cid=NL_EDN_EDT_EDN_weekly_20160825&#038;elqTrackId=984125dee6db498f92125f3d6ff1ebd4&#038;elq=10bc8150a4de4c878cd07ccabbc27c00&#038;elqaid=33591&#038;elqat=1&#038;elqCampaignId=29365</a></p>
<p>With RS-485 networks, there are periods of time when no driver is actively driving the bus, such as when one driver relinquishes the bus to another driver. During this time, the termination resistors collapse the differential bus voltage to 0V, which is an undefined input level for many RS-485 receivers. Faced with this undefined input, a receiver might output the wrong logic state or worse yet, it might oscillate. The oscillation may be interpreted as an endless stream of message start bits, causing the controller to waste valuable bandwidth trying to service these phantom messages. Fail-safe bus biasing is one way to alleviate this problem.</p>
<p>Passive fail-safe biasing is accomplished through resistor networks of pull-up, termination, and pull-down resistors whose voltage divider action provide a differential dc bus voltage, VAB, when no driver is actively driving the bus</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2014/03/21/usb-to-rs485-adapter/comment-page-1/#comment-332425</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2014 12:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DX seems to have added a new USB-serial converter that can do many things including RS-485, looks somewhat interesting.

6-in-1 Multifunction USB 2.0 to CP2102 TTL RS485 RS232 6-Pin Module Serial Converter - (3.3 / 5V) 
http://dx.com/p/6-in-1-multifunction-usb-2-0-to-cp2102-ttl-rs485-rs232-6-pin-module-serial-converter-3-3-5v-304669?r=8527370]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DX seems to have added a new USB-serial converter that can do many things including RS-485, looks somewhat interesting.</p>
<p>6-in-1 Multifunction USB 2.0 to CP2102 TTL RS485 RS232 6-Pin Module Serial Converter &#8211; (3.3 / 5V)<br />
<a href="http://dx.com/p/6-in-1-multifunction-usb-2-0-to-cp2102-ttl-rs485-rs232-6-pin-module-serial-converter-3-3-5v-304669?r=8527370" rel="nofollow">http://dx.com/p/6-in-1-multifunction-usb-2-0-to-cp2102-ttl-rs485-rs232-6-pin-module-serial-converter-3-3-5v-304669?r=8527370</a></p>
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