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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2014/07/17/audio-trends-and-snake-oil/comment-page-62/#comment-1880853</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2026 19:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Full story: <a href="https://www.headphonesty.com/2025/06/1-bit-sacds-better-16-bit-cds/?utm_source=fb&#038;utm_campaign=comment" rel="nofollow">https://www.headphonesty.com/2025/06/1-bit-sacds-better-16-bit-cds/?utm_source=fb&#038;utm_campaign=comment</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2014/07/17/audio-trends-and-snake-oil/comment-page-62/#comment-1880846</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2026 14:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A group of hobbyists tracked one popular model across hundreds of hours with a microscope and a distortion meter running side by side, watching for the point where a stylus stops reading a groove and starts wearing it down. But they hit that point much sooner than the rating on the box would suggest.

And this was not the first time anyone caught a stylus going bad earlier than expected, either. Lab researchers as far back as the 1950s flagged trouble in a similar window using professional equipment.

Full story: https://www.headphonesty.com/2026/06/study-catches-vinyl-stylus-carving-records/?utm_source=fb&amp;utm_campaign=caption]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A group of hobbyists tracked one popular model across hundreds of hours with a microscope and a distortion meter running side by side, watching for the point where a stylus stops reading a groove and starts wearing it down. But they hit that point much sooner than the rating on the box would suggest.</p>
<p>And this was not the first time anyone caught a stylus going bad earlier than expected, either. Lab researchers as far back as the 1950s flagged trouble in a similar window using professional equipment.</p>
<p>Full story: <a href="https://www.headphonesty.com/2026/06/study-catches-vinyl-stylus-carving-records/?utm_source=fb&#038;utm_campaign=caption" rel="nofollow">https://www.headphonesty.com/2026/06/study-catches-vinyl-stylus-carving-records/?utm_source=fb&#038;utm_campaign=caption</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2014/07/17/audio-trends-and-snake-oil/comment-page-62/#comment-1880838</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2026 13:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The most iconic headphones are not always the ones with the most hype or the highest prices. The ones that truly matter are the models that moved headphone design forward and left a mark that lasted for decades.

Some opened the door to private stereo listening. Some made new driver technologies real for everyday users. And some became reference points that entire categories still follow.

These 20 headphones belong in the Hi-Fi Hall of Fame because each one changed the story of personal audio in a meaningful way. 

Full list: https://www.headphonesty.com/2026/03/vintage-headphones-spot-hifi-hall-fame/?utm_source=fb&amp;utm_campaign=caption]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most iconic headphones are not always the ones with the most hype or the highest prices. The ones that truly matter are the models that moved headphone design forward and left a mark that lasted for decades.</p>
<p>Some opened the door to private stereo listening. Some made new driver technologies real for everyday users. And some became reference points that entire categories still follow.</p>
<p>These 20 headphones belong in the Hi-Fi Hall of Fame because each one changed the story of personal audio in a meaningful way. </p>
<p>Full list: <a href="https://www.headphonesty.com/2026/03/vintage-headphones-spot-hifi-hall-fame/?utm_source=fb&#038;utm_campaign=caption" rel="nofollow">https://www.headphonesty.com/2026/03/vintage-headphones-spot-hifi-hall-fame/?utm_source=fb&#038;utm_campaign=caption</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2014/07/17/audio-trends-and-snake-oil/comment-page-62/#comment-1880830</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2026 11:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tidal&#039;s new policy says that 100-percent AI-generated music will be demonetized.

Read More Here
https://www.engadget.com/2204169/tidal-isnt-banning-ai-music-but-it-wont-pay-people-who-upload-it/?utm_term=Autofeed&amp;utm_campaign=Echobox-Engadget&amp;utm_medium=Social-Distribution&amp;utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1782754091]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tidal&#8217;s new policy says that 100-percent AI-generated music will be demonetized.</p>
<p>Read More Here<br />
<a href="https://www.engadget.com/2204169/tidal-isnt-banning-ai-music-but-it-wont-pay-people-who-upload-it/?utm_term=Autofeed&#038;utm_campaign=Echobox-Engadget&#038;utm_medium=Social-Distribution&#038;utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1782754091" rel="nofollow">https://www.engadget.com/2204169/tidal-isnt-banning-ai-music-but-it-wont-pay-people-who-upload-it/?utm_term=Autofeed&#038;utm_campaign=Echobox-Engadget&#038;utm_medium=Social-Distribution&#038;utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1782754091</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2014/07/17/audio-trends-and-snake-oil/comment-page-62/#comment-1880827</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2026 10:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A veteran audio engineer spent 20 years believing that all well-measuring CD players sound the same regardless of price. Then he put two premium units worth up to $5,000 each against a budget rack-mount built for commercial installs, and what he heard didn&#039;t line up with what the specs promised.

He even brought in other listeners and they heard the same thing. So, he posted the recordings online and invited the audiophile community to prove him wrong. 

What they found instead started a very different conversation.

Full story: https://www.headphonesty.com/2025/08/engineer-cd-player-rack-mount-listening-test/?utm_source=fb&amp;utm_campaign=caption]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A veteran audio engineer spent 20 years believing that all well-measuring CD players sound the same regardless of price. Then he put two premium units worth up to $5,000 each against a budget rack-mount built for commercial installs, and what he heard didn&#8217;t line up with what the specs promised.</p>
<p>He even brought in other listeners and they heard the same thing. So, he posted the recordings online and invited the audiophile community to prove him wrong. </p>
<p>What they found instead started a very different conversation.</p>
<p>Full story: <a href="https://www.headphonesty.com/2025/08/engineer-cd-player-rack-mount-listening-test/?utm_source=fb&#038;utm_campaign=caption" rel="nofollow">https://www.headphonesty.com/2025/08/engineer-cd-player-rack-mount-listening-test/?utm_source=fb&#038;utm_campaign=caption</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2014/07/17/audio-trends-and-snake-oil/comment-page-62/#comment-1880826</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2026 10:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Full story: https://www.headphonesty.com/2025/08/streaming-outperforms-vinyl-records-sound-better/?utm_source=fb&amp;utm_campaign=comment]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Full story: <a href="https://www.headphonesty.com/2025/08/streaming-outperforms-vinyl-records-sound-better/?utm_source=fb&#038;utm_campaign=comment" rel="nofollow">https://www.headphonesty.com/2025/08/streaming-outperforms-vinyl-records-sound-better/?utm_source=fb&#038;utm_campaign=comment</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2014/07/17/audio-trends-and-snake-oil/comment-page-62/#comment-1880813</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2026 07:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For a couple of years, the CD revival looked like it might be real. Search interest climbed, polls showed people were open to buying discs again, and outlets ran with the narrative. But the actual sales data never cooperated, and the 2025 RIAA report makes that impossible to ignore.

Meanwhile, vinyl just achieved a major milestone that pushed physical media to a record-high year-end total. 

But the number that really kills the CD comeback narrative has nothing to do with how many discs sold. It&#039;s about how even the biggest CD distributor is dealing about it, and it&#039;s not looking good for CD. 

Full story: https://www.headphonesty.com/2026/03/cd-comeback-story-crashes-vinyl-hits/?utm_source=fb&amp;utm_campaign=caption]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a couple of years, the CD revival looked like it might be real. Search interest climbed, polls showed people were open to buying discs again, and outlets ran with the narrative. But the actual sales data never cooperated, and the 2025 RIAA report makes that impossible to ignore.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, vinyl just achieved a major milestone that pushed physical media to a record-high year-end total. </p>
<p>But the number that really kills the CD comeback narrative has nothing to do with how many discs sold. It&#8217;s about how even the biggest CD distributor is dealing about it, and it&#8217;s not looking good for CD. </p>
<p>Full story: <a href="https://www.headphonesty.com/2026/03/cd-comeback-story-crashes-vinyl-hits/?utm_source=fb&#038;utm_campaign=caption" rel="nofollow">https://www.headphonesty.com/2026/03/cd-comeback-story-crashes-vinyl-hits/?utm_source=fb&#038;utm_campaign=caption</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2014/07/17/audio-trends-and-snake-oil/comment-page-62/#comment-1880791</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2026 20:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s as simple as this : 99% of these silly claims are based in a single statement: &quot; I can hear what can&#039;t be measured&quot;. Conversation over. As soon as the &quot;can&#039;t be measured&quot; comes into the argument you can claim anything you want.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s as simple as this : 99% of these silly claims are based in a single statement: &#8221; I can hear what can&#8217;t be measured&#8221;. Conversation over. As soon as the &#8220;can&#8217;t be measured&#8221; comes into the argument you can claim anything you want.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2014/07/17/audio-trends-and-snake-oil/comment-page-62/#comment-1880787</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2026 18:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe not surprising, but seems like majority of comments here are from people who appear oblivious about the realities of running a business in a niche market. Small hi-end audio companies have never had economies of scale, so their (high) prices are reflective of their lack of efficiency &amp; volume, not &quot;greed&quot;...

I remember a fairly recent article from Paul McGowan, CEO of PS Audio, talking about the global market for &quot;hi-end&quot; audio. His research indicated that there was likely as few as  250,000 potential buyers worldwide for products like theirs. Spread that out across all the various global brands, and account for the lifespan of the products, and you&#039;ve got a relatively small annual total spend in any given year. Nobody ever started a serious audio company because they thought it would make them rich...it&#039;s a VERY difficult environment for a business to survive in.

https://www.facebook.com/share/1Dp4uBx7Kj/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe not surprising, but seems like majority of comments here are from people who appear oblivious about the realities of running a business in a niche market. Small hi-end audio companies have never had economies of scale, so their (high) prices are reflective of their lack of efficiency &amp; volume, not &#8220;greed&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>I remember a fairly recent article from Paul McGowan, CEO of PS Audio, talking about the global market for &#8220;hi-end&#8221; audio. His research indicated that there was likely as few as  250,000 potential buyers worldwide for products like theirs. Spread that out across all the various global brands, and account for the lifespan of the products, and you&#8217;ve got a relatively small annual total spend in any given year. Nobody ever started a serious audio company because they thought it would make them rich&#8230;it&#8217;s a VERY difficult environment for a business to survive in.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/share/1Dp4uBx7Kj/" rel="nofollow">https://www.facebook.com/share/1Dp4uBx7Kj/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2014/07/17/audio-trends-and-snake-oil/comment-page-62/#comment-1880786</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2026 18:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Headphonesty there&#039;s probably a handful more, but Nakamichi, JBL, Polk, Harman Kardon, Altec Lansing, Martin Logan, Klipsch should get things started.

Headphonesty All 

It&#039;s not about brand, but about product. All brands have lost what made them special, but there are some particular products, which are still standing. Mainly AVR&#039;s (probably due to licensing of still-valuable intellectual property like Dolby&#039;s or Dirac&#039;s) and speakers (too much raw physics). For the time being.

most of them that have been bought up by corporate investors and their production outsourced.

B &amp; O were always an overpriced novelty

Brands like Rolex, Hermés, Ferrari, and other luxury brands remain steady even through periods of severe economic downturns. Audio equipment manufacturers art vying for that “ultra” demographic. Only a few will survive.

they are failing because the prices have gone insane, in just the past 10 years the prices have increased way more then inflation or other reasons. Greed got them there, and when you can get a &quot;budget&quot;setup that comes to 80% of the sound for 80% cheaper then why would they go for these premium names?

Of course many legacy iconic British brands like Quad, Audiolab, Wharfedale etc etc were bought out by foreign manufacturers,but they kept making similar product lines based on the original designs. Already their factories had largely moved East.. I agree sound quality of budget components is fine, in fact if often was in the past though- look at those from the likes of sony and rotel for example. They made some cracking budget amps and players during the 1980s, 1990s and 2000s.

The market for these high end audio products is constantly shrinking simply because people don’t sit still home listening to music to the same extent anymore. Back in the day you had to sit at home listening to your stereo equipment if you wanted to listen with good sound, these days with streaming people go mobile and with a decent set of headphones you get pretty good sound for a fraction of the cost. I myself have several stereo setups in my home, nothing fancy but carefully selected, but many of my music loving friends just listen to Bluetooth speakers or headphones. It’s just evolution I guess.

The Chinese are killing legacy industry industries in the Western world, one by one. We as a consumer gain, we as a worker loose.

Truth is most people have never heard quality.   If you grew up on Mp3, and you can&#039;t hear the difference,  it saves allot of $$.

There are far better &#039;honest design&#039; speakers, that have much truer sound qualities and are far less expensive that the myriads of Brands spouting break through theory and design.
The Spin is UNBELIEVABLE...
RIDICULOUS PRICING...
Sadly these People ignore those Younger 18yrs ++

(Entering the Market aware that Headphones/Inner Ear Phones ruined their Hearing quicker 
when they turned 50+)

done Correctly installs BRAND LOYALTY.....
Looks at Sony. Yamaha, Jbl, +++]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Headphonesty there&#8217;s probably a handful more, but Nakamichi, JBL, Polk, Harman Kardon, Altec Lansing, Martin Logan, Klipsch should get things started.</p>
<p>Headphonesty All </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not about brand, but about product. All brands have lost what made them special, but there are some particular products, which are still standing. Mainly AVR&#8217;s (probably due to licensing of still-valuable intellectual property like Dolby&#8217;s or Dirac&#8217;s) and speakers (too much raw physics). For the time being.</p>
<p>most of them that have been bought up by corporate investors and their production outsourced.</p>
<p>B &amp; O were always an overpriced novelty</p>
<p>Brands like Rolex, Hermés, Ferrari, and other luxury brands remain steady even through periods of severe economic downturns. Audio equipment manufacturers art vying for that “ultra” demographic. Only a few will survive.</p>
<p>they are failing because the prices have gone insane, in just the past 10 years the prices have increased way more then inflation or other reasons. Greed got them there, and when you can get a &#8220;budget&#8221;setup that comes to 80% of the sound for 80% cheaper then why would they go for these premium names?</p>
<p>Of course many legacy iconic British brands like Quad, Audiolab, Wharfedale etc etc were bought out by foreign manufacturers,but they kept making similar product lines based on the original designs. Already their factories had largely moved East.. I agree sound quality of budget components is fine, in fact if often was in the past though- look at those from the likes of sony and rotel for example. They made some cracking budget amps and players during the 1980s, 1990s and 2000s.</p>
<p>The market for these high end audio products is constantly shrinking simply because people don’t sit still home listening to music to the same extent anymore. Back in the day you had to sit at home listening to your stereo equipment if you wanted to listen with good sound, these days with streaming people go mobile and with a decent set of headphones you get pretty good sound for a fraction of the cost. I myself have several stereo setups in my home, nothing fancy but carefully selected, but many of my music loving friends just listen to Bluetooth speakers or headphones. It’s just evolution I guess.</p>
<p>The Chinese are killing legacy industry industries in the Western world, one by one. We as a consumer gain, we as a worker loose.</p>
<p>Truth is most people have never heard quality.   If you grew up on Mp3, and you can&#8217;t hear the difference,  it saves allot of $$.</p>
<p>There are far better &#8216;honest design&#8217; speakers, that have much truer sound qualities and are far less expensive that the myriads of Brands spouting break through theory and design.<br />
The Spin is UNBELIEVABLE&#8230;<br />
RIDICULOUS PRICING&#8230;<br />
Sadly these People ignore those Younger 18yrs ++</p>
<p>(Entering the Market aware that Headphones/Inner Ear Phones ruined their Hearing quicker<br />
when they turned 50+)</p>
<p>done Correctly installs BRAND LOYALTY&#8230;..<br />
Looks at Sony. Yamaha, Jbl, +++</p>
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