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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2014/07/17/audio-trends-and-snake-oil/comment-page-67/#comment-1891366</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2026 21:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[...Yes, a massive mental disorder. Usually associated with an extremely strong urge to spend vast amounts of money on esoteric electronic junk &amp; bullsh!t that contradicts all physical laws, in order to supposedly hear something &quot;more clearly&quot;, &quot;deeper&quot;, &quot;airier&quot;, &quot;wider&quot;, &quot;blacker&quot;, &quot;whatsoever!&quot;, which is not at all present on the respective recording medium. Arrogant but completely clueless and intellectually challenged, but extremely easily impressed and persuaded fools who are happy when wicked charlatans take their money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;Yes, a massive mental disorder. Usually associated with an extremely strong urge to spend vast amounts of money on esoteric electronic junk &amp; bullsh!t that contradicts all physical laws, in order to supposedly hear something &#8220;more clearly&#8221;, &#8220;deeper&#8221;, &#8220;airier&#8221;, &#8220;wider&#8221;, &#8220;blacker&#8221;, &#8220;whatsoever!&#8221;, which is not at all present on the respective recording medium. Arrogant but completely clueless and intellectually challenged, but extremely easily impressed and persuaded fools who are happy when wicked charlatans take their money.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2014/07/17/audio-trends-and-snake-oil/comment-page-67/#comment-1891335</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2026 15:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[https://www.facebook.com/share/1HMpdkGAhW/


Audiophiles routinely spend thousands of dollars on DACs, amplifiers, and streamers, but the home network feeding all that equipment usually gets much less attention.

It&#039;s understandable. Ethernet has been used for decades to move digital information reliably, and a decent home router can stream lossless music without any obvious problems.

Still, some hi-fi manufacturers have gone to extraordinary lengths to redesign the networking equipment used in high-end systems.

One company experimented with more than ten stages of filtering before settling on a particular configuration. Its finished network switch now sells for $4,700 and includes several features intended to address potential sources of interference.

That raises the stakes considerably for anyone wondering whether their existing network equipment is good enough.

Researchers have tried to investigate these claims using independent measurements. Some experiments compared ordinary switches against expensive audiophile alternatives, while others examined what happens when the connection itself changes.

But interpreting the results isn&#039;t straightforward. The equipment being tested matters, and measurements taken at different points don&#039;t necessarily tell the same story.

There is even disagreement over a solution that seems especially convincing on paper.

With so many approaches being proposed, the bigger issue is figuring out which problems actually matter, which equipment is vulnerable, and what happens when engineers try to eliminate the suspected cause.

Full story: https://www.headphonesty.com/2026/10/router-affect-hifi-without-changing-single-bitrate/?utm_source=fb&amp;utm_campaign=story]]></description>
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<p>Audiophiles routinely spend thousands of dollars on DACs, amplifiers, and streamers, but the home network feeding all that equipment usually gets much less attention.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s understandable. Ethernet has been used for decades to move digital information reliably, and a decent home router can stream lossless music without any obvious problems.</p>
<p>Still, some hi-fi manufacturers have gone to extraordinary lengths to redesign the networking equipment used in high-end systems.</p>
<p>One company experimented with more than ten stages of filtering before settling on a particular configuration. Its finished network switch now sells for $4,700 and includes several features intended to address potential sources of interference.</p>
<p>That raises the stakes considerably for anyone wondering whether their existing network equipment is good enough.</p>
<p>Researchers have tried to investigate these claims using independent measurements. Some experiments compared ordinary switches against expensive audiophile alternatives, while others examined what happens when the connection itself changes.</p>
<p>But interpreting the results isn&#8217;t straightforward. The equipment being tested matters, and measurements taken at different points don&#8217;t necessarily tell the same story.</p>
<p>There is even disagreement over a solution that seems especially convincing on paper.</p>
<p>With so many approaches being proposed, the bigger issue is figuring out which problems actually matter, which equipment is vulnerable, and what happens when engineers try to eliminate the suspected cause.</p>
<p>Full story: <a href="https://www.headphonesty.com/2026/10/router-affect-hifi-without-changing-single-bitrate/?utm_source=fb&#038;utm_campaign=story" rel="nofollow">https://www.headphonesty.com/2026/10/router-affect-hifi-without-changing-single-bitrate/?utm_source=fb&#038;utm_campaign=story</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2014/07/17/audio-trends-and-snake-oil/comment-page-67/#comment-1891244</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2026 19:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi-Fi Legend Exposes the Major Technical Flaw in Digital Audio That Makes Vinyl Sound Better
https://www.headphonesty.com/2026/10/hifi-legend-exposes-major-flaw-digital-vinyl/?utm_source=fb&amp;utm_campaign=thumbnail&amp;fbclid=IwdGRjcAVPHGFjbGNrBU8cMGV4dG4DYWVtAjExAHBkb2YFc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQMMzUwNjg1NTMxNzI4AAEf_kGL6u7M8hMxwdsAqJrKcKGzr1-IVm78CXA-8LmKNPq5N7Et54B4eo2dKm8_aem_zQpWtc5IUB-k0TR0fk7qCg

Why Vandersteen Believes Digital Loses
For Vandersteen, the problem with digital audio comes down to timing. Since the smallest timing and phase relationships between sounds are essential to making music feel real, he suspects digital conversion can disturb them.

Getting the frequency balance right isn’t enough, according to Vandersteen. The different parts of a sound must also arrive with their timing and phase relationships intact to preserve the recording’s spatial information.

And the problem, as he sees it, can begin long before music reaches the speakers.

During digital recording and playback, an analog signal is converted into digital data and later reconstructed as an analog waveform. Vandersteen suspects these processes can disturb subtle timing relationships, changing how listeners perceive the depth and placement of instruments.

In fact, even digital signal processing (DSP) has its limits in his view.

In an Audiophile Foundation interview, he acknowledged that DSP can correct timing and amplitude problems in loudspeakers. However, correcting those problems doesn’t necessarily restore information he considers compromised earlier in the digital signal path.

Still, Vandersteen acknowledges that he isn’t a digital engineer, and he hasn’t identified a specific DAC, filter, or measurable timing error responsible for the differences he describes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi-Fi Legend Exposes the Major Technical Flaw in Digital Audio That Makes Vinyl Sound Better<br />
<a href="https://www.headphonesty.com/2026/10/hifi-legend-exposes-major-flaw-digital-vinyl/?utm_source=fb&#038;utm_campaign=thumbnail&#038;fbclid=IwdGRjcAVPHGFjbGNrBU8cMGV4dG4DYWVtAjExAHBkb2YFc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQMMzUwNjg1NTMxNzI4AAEf_kGL6u7M8hMxwdsAqJrKcKGzr1-IVm78CXA-8LmKNPq5N7Et54B4eo2dKm8_aem_zQpWtc5IUB-k0TR0fk7qCg" rel="nofollow">https://www.headphonesty.com/2026/10/hifi-legend-exposes-major-flaw-digital-vinyl/?utm_source=fb&#038;utm_campaign=thumbnail&#038;fbclid=IwdGRjcAVPHGFjbGNrBU8cMGV4dG4DYWVtAjExAHBkb2YFc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQMMzUwNjg1NTMxNzI4AAEf_kGL6u7M8hMxwdsAqJrKcKGzr1-IVm78CXA-8LmKNPq5N7Et54B4eo2dKm8_aem_zQpWtc5IUB-k0TR0fk7qCg</a></p>
<p>Why Vandersteen Believes Digital Loses<br />
For Vandersteen, the problem with digital audio comes down to timing. Since the smallest timing and phase relationships between sounds are essential to making music feel real, he suspects digital conversion can disturb them.</p>
<p>Getting the frequency balance right isn’t enough, according to Vandersteen. The different parts of a sound must also arrive with their timing and phase relationships intact to preserve the recording’s spatial information.</p>
<p>And the problem, as he sees it, can begin long before music reaches the speakers.</p>
<p>During digital recording and playback, an analog signal is converted into digital data and later reconstructed as an analog waveform. Vandersteen suspects these processes can disturb subtle timing relationships, changing how listeners perceive the depth and placement of instruments.</p>
<p>In fact, even digital signal processing (DSP) has its limits in his view.</p>
<p>In an Audiophile Foundation interview, he acknowledged that DSP can correct timing and amplitude problems in loudspeakers. However, correcting those problems doesn’t necessarily restore information he considers compromised earlier in the digital signal path.</p>
<p>Still, Vandersteen acknowledges that he isn’t a digital engineer, and he hasn’t identified a specific DAC, filter, or measurable timing error responsible for the differences he describes.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2014/07/17/audio-trends-and-snake-oil/comment-page-67/#comment-1891183</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2026 13:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2014/07/17/audio-trends-and-snake-oil/comment-page-67/#comment-1891118</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2026 23:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The claim that cable lifters &quot;improve the sound&quot; is snake oil, but the internet commenter&#039;s explanation invoking corrosion or dielectric effects was pure nonsense.
From an electromagnetic and circuit-design perspective, raising speaker or interconnect cables a few inches off the floor changes absolutely nothing of consequence. Here is why the &quot;lifters don&#039;t do anything&quot; conclusion is correct, broken down by the actual physics:
1. Parasitic Capacitance to the Floor
 * The Audiophile Myth: Proponents claim that laying cables on a floor (especially carpet) creates a capacitive coupling or &quot;dielectric absorption&quot; effect that bleeds high frequencies or muddies the bass.
 * The Reality: The capacitance between a typical speaker or line-level cable and the floor (whether wood, concrete, or carpet) is calculated in fractions of a picofarad per meter. At audio frequencies (20 Hz to 20 kHz), this parasitic capacitance is so infinitesimally small relative to the output impedance of the amplifier and the characteristic impedance of the cable that its effect on frequency response or phase is completely non-existent. You would need a capacitance thousands of times larger to even begin rolling off the top audible octave.
2. Dielectric Absorption vs. Audio Signals
 * The Audiophile Myth: The insulation touching the floor interacts with static charges or electric fields, causing energy storage and release.
 * The Reality: Dielectric absorption (DA) is a real phenomenon in high-precision capacitors (like Teflon vs. electrolytic or ceramic dielectrics in sample-and-hold circuits or integrators). In a standard wire insulator, DA causes minor signal distortion only in extreme high-voltage or high-precision instrumentation contexts. In a standard copper wire carrying an audio signal, the electric field is contained entirely between the conductor and its own shield/return path, not leaking out into the living room rug.
3. External Interference and Fields
 * The Reality: If a cable is close to the floor, could it pick up hum from household AC wiring running through the baseboards?
   * Unbalanced interconnects rely on proper shielding to reject electrostatic fields.
   * Speaker cables carry low-impedance, high-current signals driven by a low source impedance (high damping factor), making them virtually immune to ambient electric field coupling from a floor.
   * If stray 50/60 Hz magnetic fields from wall wiring are an issue, a tiny ceramic puck 5 cm off the floor won&#039;t change the flux linkage anyway; proper cable routing away from power transformers and proper balanced signaling are what actually matter.
In short: The cables don&#039;t care if they are touching the floor, because the electrical environment of a floor presents zero parasitic load that an audio amplifier or receiver can even detect. The audiophile lifters are a solution looking for a problem—built on a fundamental misunderstanding of electromagnetics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The claim that cable lifters &#8220;improve the sound&#8221; is snake oil, but the internet commenter&#8217;s explanation invoking corrosion or dielectric effects was pure nonsense.<br />
From an electromagnetic and circuit-design perspective, raising speaker or interconnect cables a few inches off the floor changes absolutely nothing of consequence. Here is why the &#8220;lifters don&#8217;t do anything&#8221; conclusion is correct, broken down by the actual physics:<br />
1. Parasitic Capacitance to the Floor<br />
 * The Audiophile Myth: Proponents claim that laying cables on a floor (especially carpet) creates a capacitive coupling or &#8220;dielectric absorption&#8221; effect that bleeds high frequencies or muddies the bass.<br />
 * The Reality: The capacitance between a typical speaker or line-level cable and the floor (whether wood, concrete, or carpet) is calculated in fractions of a picofarad per meter. At audio frequencies (20 Hz to 20 kHz), this parasitic capacitance is so infinitesimally small relative to the output impedance of the amplifier and the characteristic impedance of the cable that its effect on frequency response or phase is completely non-existent. You would need a capacitance thousands of times larger to even begin rolling off the top audible octave.<br />
2. Dielectric Absorption vs. Audio Signals<br />
 * The Audiophile Myth: The insulation touching the floor interacts with static charges or electric fields, causing energy storage and release.<br />
 * The Reality: Dielectric absorption (DA) is a real phenomenon in high-precision capacitors (like Teflon vs. electrolytic or ceramic dielectrics in sample-and-hold circuits or integrators). In a standard wire insulator, DA causes minor signal distortion only in extreme high-voltage or high-precision instrumentation contexts. In a standard copper wire carrying an audio signal, the electric field is contained entirely between the conductor and its own shield/return path, not leaking out into the living room rug.<br />
3. External Interference and Fields<br />
 * The Reality: If a cable is close to the floor, could it pick up hum from household AC wiring running through the baseboards?<br />
   * Unbalanced interconnects rely on proper shielding to reject electrostatic fields.<br />
   * Speaker cables carry low-impedance, high-current signals driven by a low source impedance (high damping factor), making them virtually immune to ambient electric field coupling from a floor.<br />
   * If stray 50/60 Hz magnetic fields from wall wiring are an issue, a tiny ceramic puck 5 cm off the floor won&#8217;t change the flux linkage anyway; proper cable routing away from power transformers and proper balanced signaling are what actually matter.<br />
In short: The cables don&#8217;t care if they are touching the floor, because the electrical environment of a floor presents zero parasitic load that an audio amplifier or receiver can even detect. The audiophile lifters are a solution looking for a problem—built on a fundamental misunderstanding of electromagnetics.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2014/07/17/audio-trends-and-snake-oil/comment-page-67/#comment-1891094</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2026 19:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2014/07/17/audio-trends-and-snake-oil/comment-page-67/#comment-1890973</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2026 00:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unlike standard residential carpet—where static and dielectric claims lean heavily into audiophile marketing territory—placing speaker cables directly on a metal floor moves the discussion entirely into solid, textbook electromagnetic physics.
​If the floor is conductive or ferromagnetic, laying unshielded speaker cables directly on it introduces real, quantifiable electromagnetic interactions.

1. Eddy Current Losses (Lenz&#039;s Law)
​2. Ferromagnetic Effects (Permeability &amp; Hysteresis)
​3. Proximity Effect and Impedance Shifts


Summary: Do Lifters Matter Here?
​Yes. In an environment with a solid metal floor (such as an industrial server room with raised access floor panels, a specialized laboratory, or a steel-framed platform), lifting cables off the metal surface is physically justified.
​Elevating the cables by even a few centimeters exponentially decreases the magnetic flux density reaching the conductive or magnetic plane, effectively eliminating eddy current losses and keeping the cable&#039;s electrical impedance stable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unlike standard residential carpet—where static and dielectric claims lean heavily into audiophile marketing territory—placing speaker cables directly on a metal floor moves the discussion entirely into solid, textbook electromagnetic physics.<br />
​If the floor is conductive or ferromagnetic, laying unshielded speaker cables directly on it introduces real, quantifiable electromagnetic interactions.</p>
<p>1. Eddy Current Losses (Lenz&#8217;s Law)<br />
​2. Ferromagnetic Effects (Permeability &amp; Hysteresis)<br />
​3. Proximity Effect and Impedance Shifts</p>
<p>Summary: Do Lifters Matter Here?<br />
​Yes. In an environment with a solid metal floor (such as an industrial server room with raised access floor panels, a specialized laboratory, or a steel-framed platform), lifting cables off the metal surface is physically justified.<br />
​Elevating the cables by even a few centimeters exponentially decreases the magnetic flux density reaching the conductive or magnetic plane, effectively eliminating eddy current losses and keeping the cable&#8217;s electrical impedance stable.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2014/07/17/audio-trends-and-snake-oil/comment-page-67/#comment-1890972</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2026 00:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While the floor technically acts as a weak secondary dielectric, the physical distance between the wire conductors inside the thick cable jacket and the carpet outside means this stray capacitance effect is microscopic—usually far below human hearing thresholds. 
The physical mechanisms proponents cite (static charge, capacitive coupling, dielectric interaction) are grounded in real electrical principles. However, in standard home setups, the measurable changes are usually so tiny that blind listening tests rarely show a repeatable, audible difference.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the floor technically acts as a weak secondary dielectric, the physical distance between the wire conductors inside the thick cable jacket and the carpet outside means this stray capacitance effect is microscopic—usually far below human hearing thresholds.<br />
The physical mechanisms proponents cite (static charge, capacitive coupling, dielectric interaction) are grounded in real electrical principles. However, in standard home setups, the measurable changes are usually so tiny that blind listening tests rarely show a repeatable, audible difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2026 00:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Comments seen

The idea of &#039;cable lifters&#039; came about because of the dielectric effect in cables on synthetic material rugs or carpeting. As with most things in HIGH END AUDIO, those who don&#039;t understand the underlying science, extrapolate the idea to absurd extremes.

NOT disagreeing w/the science. Just pointing out where the idea of lifters came from: A signal in a wire is NOT confined to the wire. An electromagnetic field is detectable outside of said wire. Which may or may not be affected by synthetic carpeting/rugs as a (semi)conductive material. Concrete, 100% wool, ceramics, most tile, etc., is non-conductive. This is where the &#039;snake oil&#039; takes over.

I built my cable lifters as I was not going to pay the crazy price these companies want for theirs. My main reason for having cable lifters is I like how it looks. Cables lifted neatly off the floor looks great to me. 
Now, something that can help your system that involves all of your cables is to keep your power cables away from your signal cables as best you can. If they must be near each other crossing them at right angles is the best solution.

Steve&#039;s saying the truth. It&#039;s just marketing. Correct Speaker placement is a direct improvement. Matching speakers to the right room is a direct improvement. Save your hard earned cash. But to each there own. :)

Well, if you’ve ever worked live sound and had to pull cables out of alcohol, mud and yes even puke I’d say it may have its place. Now I’d never use them because we have a saying… it’s all about the out and these would just take more time at the end of a long day.

I&#039;m still not sure if they make a difference but I think they were intended for use on carpet floors. Supposedly, the carpet interacts with the cable and degrades the sound.]]></description>
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<p>The idea of &#8216;cable lifters&#8217; came about because of the dielectric effect in cables on synthetic material rugs or carpeting. As with most things in HIGH END AUDIO, those who don&#8217;t understand the underlying science, extrapolate the idea to absurd extremes.</p>
<p>NOT disagreeing w/the science. Just pointing out where the idea of lifters came from: A signal in a wire is NOT confined to the wire. An electromagnetic field is detectable outside of said wire. Which may or may not be affected by synthetic carpeting/rugs as a (semi)conductive material. Concrete, 100% wool, ceramics, most tile, etc., is non-conductive. This is where the &#8216;snake oil&#8217; takes over.</p>
<p>I built my cable lifters as I was not going to pay the crazy price these companies want for theirs. My main reason for having cable lifters is I like how it looks. Cables lifted neatly off the floor looks great to me.<br />
Now, something that can help your system that involves all of your cables is to keep your power cables away from your signal cables as best you can. If they must be near each other crossing them at right angles is the best solution.</p>
<p>Steve&#8217;s saying the truth. It&#8217;s just marketing. Correct Speaker placement is a direct improvement. Matching speakers to the right room is a direct improvement. Save your hard earned cash. But to each there own. <img src="http://www.epanorama.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
<p>Well, if you’ve ever worked live sound and had to pull cables out of alcohol, mud and yes even puke I’d say it may have its place. Now I’d never use them because we have a saying… it’s all about the out and these would just take more time at the end of a long day.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still not sure if they make a difference but I think they were intended for use on carpet floors. Supposedly, the carpet interacts with the cable and degrades the sound.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike Triolo 
Why They Do Not Work

• Negligible Capacitance: The capacitive or inductive interaction between a standard speaker wire and a floor is mathematically minuscule—amounting to a fraction of a picofarad—and has zero impact on audio-band frequencies.
• Low Impedance: Speaker-level signals carry low-voltage/high-current power at low impedance, making them virtually immune to the types of ambient floor static or minor dielectric effects that proponents claim.
• Placebo Effect: Blind listening tests consistently show that listeners cannot reliably tell the difference between cables resting on a floor and cables elevated on expensive wooden or ceramic bridges.

There you go numb nuts]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Triolo<br />
Why They Do Not Work</p>
<p>• Negligible Capacitance: The capacitive or inductive interaction between a standard speaker wire and a floor is mathematically minuscule—amounting to a fraction of a picofarad—and has zero impact on audio-band frequencies.<br />
• Low Impedance: Speaker-level signals carry low-voltage/high-current power at low impedance, making them virtually immune to the types of ambient floor static or minor dielectric effects that proponents claim.<br />
• Placebo Effect: Blind listening tests consistently show that listeners cannot reliably tell the difference between cables resting on a floor and cables elevated on expensive wooden or ceramic bridges.</p>
<p>There you go numb nuts</p>
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