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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2015/04/02/full-stack-developer-at-iot-era/comment-page-1/#comment-1805003</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2023 07:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear recruiters,

if you are looking for:
- Java, Python, PHP
- React, Angular
- PostgreSQL, Redis, MongoDB
- AWS, S3, EC2, ECS, EKS
- Linux system administration
- Git and CI with TDD
- Docker, Kubernetes

That&#039;s not a Full Stack Developer. That&#039;s an entire IT department.

Your truly]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear recruiters,</p>
<p>if you are looking for:<br />
- Java, Python, PHP<br />
- React, Angular<br />
- PostgreSQL, Redis, MongoDB<br />
- AWS, S3, EC2, ECS, EKS<br />
- Linux system administration<br />
- Git and CI with TDD<br />
- Docker, Kubernetes</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not a Full Stack Developer. That&#8217;s an entire IT department.</p>
<p>Your truly</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2015/04/02/full-stack-developer-at-iot-era/comment-page-1/#comment-1775107</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2022 16:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Engineers on the brink of extinction threaten entire tech ecosystems
Resting on its laurels is costing the industry its hardies
https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/18/electrical_engineers_extinction/

OPINION Intel has produced some unbelievable graphs in its time: projected Itanium market share, next node power consumption, multicore performance boosts.

The graph the company showed at the latest VLSI Symposium, however, was a real shocker.

While computer science course take-up had gone up by over 90 percent in the past 50 years, electrical engineering (EE) had declined by the same amount. The electronics graduate has become rarer than an Intel-based smartphone.

That part of the technology industry which makes actual things has always been divided between hardies and softies, soldering iron versus compiler, oscilloscope versus debugger. But the balance is lost. Something is very wrong at the heart of our technology creation supply chain. Where have all the hardies gone?

Engineering degree courses are a lot of work across a lot of disciplines, with electronic engineering being particularly diverse. The theoretical side covers signal, information, semiconductor devices, optical and electromagnetic theory, so your math better be good. There’s any amount of building-block knowledge needed, analogue and digital, across the spectrum from millimetric RF to high-energy power engineering. And then you have to know how to apply it all to real-world problems.

This isn’t the sort of course you opt to do because you can’t think of anything better. You have to want to do it, you have to think you can do it, and do it well enough to make it your career. For that, you need prior exposure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Engineers on the brink of extinction threaten entire tech ecosystems<br />
Resting on its laurels is costing the industry its hardies<br />
<a href="https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/18/electrical_engineers_extinction/" rel="nofollow">https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/18/electrical_engineers_extinction/</a></p>
<p>OPINION Intel has produced some unbelievable graphs in its time: projected Itanium market share, next node power consumption, multicore performance boosts.</p>
<p>The graph the company showed at the latest VLSI Symposium, however, was a real shocker.</p>
<p>While computer science course take-up had gone up by over 90 percent in the past 50 years, electrical engineering (EE) had declined by the same amount. The electronics graduate has become rarer than an Intel-based smartphone.</p>
<p>That part of the technology industry which makes actual things has always been divided between hardies and softies, soldering iron versus compiler, oscilloscope versus debugger. But the balance is lost. Something is very wrong at the heart of our technology creation supply chain. Where have all the hardies gone?</p>
<p>Engineering degree courses are a lot of work across a lot of disciplines, with electronic engineering being particularly diverse. The theoretical side covers signal, information, semiconductor devices, optical and electromagnetic theory, so your math better be good. There’s any amount of building-block knowledge needed, analogue and digital, across the spectrum from millimetric RF to high-energy power engineering. And then you have to know how to apply it all to real-world problems.</p>
<p>This isn’t the sort of course you opt to do because you can’t think of anything better. You have to want to do it, you have to think you can do it, and do it well enough to make it your career. For that, you need prior exposure.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2015/04/02/full-stack-developer-at-iot-era/comment-page-1/#comment-1700420</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2021 19:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Senior Master Developer of Everything There Is
https://get.pockethunt.com/helloworldify/?fbclid=IwAR3ZwtraNANxgGIO1LRP_9qAD_1N9G0c0hEnyhNFV5P0YlnCEt38lNijnrA

As we’re growing tremendously fast, we are now looking for a new Senior Master Developer of Everything There Is. The successful applicant must be operating on a level completely beyond the full stack – we need a candidate capable of swallowing the entire pile. We like to put things simply and concisely, so we call the role SMDOETI.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Senior Master Developer of Everything There Is<br />
<a href="https://get.pockethunt.com/helloworldify/?fbclid=IwAR3ZwtraNANxgGIO1LRP_9qAD_1N9G0c0hEnyhNFV5P0YlnCEt38lNijnrA" rel="nofollow">https://get.pockethunt.com/helloworldify/?fbclid=IwAR3ZwtraNANxgGIO1LRP_9qAD_1N9G0c0hEnyhNFV5P0YlnCEt38lNijnrA</a></p>
<p>As we’re growing tremendously fast, we are now looking for a new Senior Master Developer of Everything There Is. The successful applicant must be operating on a level completely beyond the full stack – we need a candidate capable of swallowing the entire pile. We like to put things simply and concisely, so we call the role SMDOETI.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2015/04/02/full-stack-developer-at-iot-era/comment-page-1/#comment-1699968</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2020 07:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you know anyone who qualifies for ‘Senior Master Developer of Everything There Is?
 We wish everybody a better upcoming year 2021!

Senior Master Developer of Everything There Is
https://get.pockethunt.com/helloworldify/?fbclid=IwAR3ZwtraNANxgGIO1LRP_9qAD_1N9G0c0hEnyhNFV5P0YlnCEt38lNijnrA]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you know anyone who qualifies for ‘Senior Master Developer of Everything There Is?<br />
 We wish everybody a better upcoming year 2021!</p>
<p>Senior Master Developer of Everything There Is<br />
<a href="https://get.pockethunt.com/helloworldify/?fbclid=IwAR3ZwtraNANxgGIO1LRP_9qAD_1N9G0c0hEnyhNFV5P0YlnCEt38lNijnrA" rel="nofollow">https://get.pockethunt.com/helloworldify/?fbclid=IwAR3ZwtraNANxgGIO1LRP_9qAD_1N9G0c0hEnyhNFV5P0YlnCEt38lNijnrA</a></p>
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		<title>By: Roksana Krysht</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2015/04/02/full-stack-developer-at-iot-era/comment-page-1/#comment-1673641</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roksana Krysht]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2020 13:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi. Nice article! 
We have so many code sphere. Now I&#039;m thinking about Product Engineer vs. Full-Stack Engineer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi. Nice article!<br />
We have so many code sphere. Now I&#8217;m thinking about Product Engineer vs. Full-Stack Engineer.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2015/04/02/full-stack-developer-at-iot-era/comment-page-1/#comment-1673398</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2020 18:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mini Full Stack!
https://kodarit.fi/kurssiuutuutemme-mini-full-stack/

 mitä Full Stack -koodari sitten tekee?

Ohjelmoi ruudulla näkyvää Front End eli selaimen koodia (HTML, CSS, JavaScript + jQuery, React, Angular tai Vue)
Ohjelmoi Back End eli palvelimen/serverin koodia (esim Node.js + Express tai Python + Flask)
Ohjelmoi tietokantoja/database-koodia  (SQL, MongoDB)
Ohjelmoi näiden kaikkien rajapintoja.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mini Full Stack!<br />
<a href="https://kodarit.fi/kurssiuutuutemme-mini-full-stack/" rel="nofollow">https://kodarit.fi/kurssiuutuutemme-mini-full-stack/</a></p>
<p> mitä Full Stack -koodari sitten tekee?</p>
<p>Ohjelmoi ruudulla näkyvää Front End eli selaimen koodia (HTML, CSS, JavaScript + jQuery, React, Angular tai Vue)<br />
Ohjelmoi Back End eli palvelimen/serverin koodia (esim Node.js + Express tai Python + Flask)<br />
Ohjelmoi tietokantoja/database-koodia  (SQL, MongoDB)<br />
Ohjelmoi näiden kaikkien rajapintoja.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2015/04/02/full-stack-developer-at-iot-era/comment-page-1/#comment-1669515</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Feb 2020 08:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[https://www.designnews.com/electronics-test/tall-and-thin-or-short-and-fat-are-engineers-ready-industry-40/129963103562261?ADTRK=InformaMarkets&amp;elq_mid=12142&amp;elq_cid=876648]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.designnews.com/electronics-test/tall-and-thin-or-short-and-fat-are-engineers-ready-industry-40/129963103562261?ADTRK=InformaMarkets&#038;elq_mid=12142&#038;elq_cid=876648" rel="nofollow">https://www.designnews.com/electronics-test/tall-and-thin-or-short-and-fat-are-engineers-ready-industry-40/129963103562261?ADTRK=InformaMarkets&#038;elq_mid=12142&#038;elq_cid=876648</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2015/04/02/full-stack-developer-at-iot-era/comment-page-1/#comment-1654511</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Oct 2019 03:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is full stack developer and full stack engineer

In small startups where it pretty much means the small engineering team is expected to run the whole show - front to back.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is full stack developer and full stack engineer</p>
<p>In small startups where it pretty much means the small engineering team is expected to run the whole show &#8211; front to back.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2015/04/02/full-stack-developer-at-iot-era/comment-page-1/#comment-1654510</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Oct 2019 03:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Full Stack: &quot;the thing the hiring manager says so we don&#039;t have to list all the requirements so we don&#039;t have to pay a shitload&quot;

It means I can fit everything in the fucking fridge on a sandwich and cook it on top of an old Cisco router switch.

Basically your are in something like devops where you do everything.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Full Stack: &#8220;the thing the hiring manager says so we don&#8217;t have to list all the requirements so we don&#8217;t have to pay a shitload&#8221;</p>
<p>It means I can fit everything in the fucking fridge on a sandwich and cook it on top of an old Cisco router switch.</p>
<p>Basically your are in something like devops where you do everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2015/04/02/full-stack-developer-at-iot-era/comment-page-1/#comment-1480088</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2016 08:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reimagining the Full-Stack Developer
http://www.skilledup.com/articles/reimagining-the-full-stack-developer

Demand for the almighty full-stack developer is diminishing within the web development market, but that might not be a bad thing. As technologies become more complex, it is becoming increasingly beneficial for companies to take on someone who specializes in one area.

The full-stack web developer is a jack-of-all-trades, experienced in handling all steps of web development from the back-end or server side to the front-end or design side.

Yet only 3% of the web development job market is looking for a full-stack developer, while front-end developers, who handle the user’s interface of a site, are the most desirable at 20%,  according to data SkilledUp collected from a dataset of more than 28 million online job postings from May 2013 to September 2014.

Breaking Down the Stack

It was once fairly easy to be a full-stack developer in the market, but stacks are a lot bigger and harder to keep up with than they used to be. Rather than being well-versed in everything, full-stack developers risk being spread too thin.

“From a hiring perspective, it’s much easier to target a single technology — Ruby on Rails or AngularJS — than trying to find the complete package of a full-stack developer who meets all requirements,” said Cooper McGoodwin, project manager at Dolphin Micro, a web development company.

Change is Constant

Device manufacturers are moving at a rapid pace to outmaneuver each other, making it unbelievable to be a full-stack developer, said Sean Allen, director of product strategy at OutSystems, an enterprise Rapid Application Delivery platform provider.

“[Full-stack developers] perpetuate a myth that the unicorn not only exists, but that they can keep up … with the churn of technology,” he said.

“Having a greater understanding of the entire codebase really helps you understand how your project fits in, even if it’s limited. That is very helpful, so you can understand how the changes you are making affects the rest of the app,” Galant said.“We may need any one of our engineers to tackle any kind of project, from front end to back end to DevOps, etc.”]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reimagining the Full-Stack Developer<br />
<a href="http://www.skilledup.com/articles/reimagining-the-full-stack-developer" rel="nofollow">http://www.skilledup.com/articles/reimagining-the-full-stack-developer</a></p>
<p>Demand for the almighty full-stack developer is diminishing within the web development market, but that might not be a bad thing. As technologies become more complex, it is becoming increasingly beneficial for companies to take on someone who specializes in one area.</p>
<p>The full-stack web developer is a jack-of-all-trades, experienced in handling all steps of web development from the back-end or server side to the front-end or design side.</p>
<p>Yet only 3% of the web development job market is looking for a full-stack developer, while front-end developers, who handle the user’s interface of a site, are the most desirable at 20%,  according to data SkilledUp collected from a dataset of more than 28 million online job postings from May 2013 to September 2014.</p>
<p>Breaking Down the Stack</p>
<p>It was once fairly easy to be a full-stack developer in the market, but stacks are a lot bigger and harder to keep up with than they used to be. Rather than being well-versed in everything, full-stack developers risk being spread too thin.</p>
<p>“From a hiring perspective, it’s much easier to target a single technology — Ruby on Rails or AngularJS — than trying to find the complete package of a full-stack developer who meets all requirements,” said Cooper McGoodwin, project manager at Dolphin Micro, a web development company.</p>
<p>Change is Constant</p>
<p>Device manufacturers are moving at a rapid pace to outmaneuver each other, making it unbelievable to be a full-stack developer, said Sean Allen, director of product strategy at OutSystems, an enterprise Rapid Application Delivery platform provider.</p>
<p>“[Full-stack developers] perpetuate a myth that the unicorn not only exists, but that they can keep up … with the churn of technology,” he said.</p>
<p>“Having a greater understanding of the entire codebase really helps you understand how your project fits in, even if it’s limited. That is very helpful, so you can understand how the changes you are making affects the rest of the app,” Galant said.“We may need any one of our engineers to tackle any kind of project, from front end to back end to DevOps, etc.”</p>
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