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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2019/09/28/testing-nanovna/comment-page-4/#comment-1820505</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2024 15:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Traditional VNA instruments use directional couplers as shown n the diagram to separate forward and backward traveling waves in the coax and then display things like S11 = Vreflected/Vforward, etc. The NanoVNA does this with a clever resistor and amplifier arrangement and associated math. Some info is here: https://oristopo.github.io/nVhelp/html/hardware.htm]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Traditional VNA instruments use directional couplers as shown n the diagram to separate forward and backward traveling waves in the coax and then display things like S11 = Vreflected/Vforward, etc. The NanoVNA does this with a clever resistor and amplifier arrangement and associated math. Some info is here: <a href="https://oristopo.github.io/nVhelp/html/hardware.htm" rel="nofollow">https://oristopo.github.io/nVhelp/html/hardware.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2019/09/28/testing-nanovna/comment-page-4/#comment-1810672</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2023 04:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nanovna test board kit
https://www.aliexpress.com/i/4000928040725.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004398014119.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nanovna test board kit<br />
<a href="https://www.aliexpress.com/i/4000928040725.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.aliexpress.com/i/4000928040725.html</a><br />
<a href="https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004398014119.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004398014119.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2019/09/28/testing-nanovna/comment-page-4/#comment-1804247</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2023 06:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Extending the Frequency Range of a “Classic” NanoVNA
https://gm8bjf.joomla.com/20-extending-the-frequency-range-of-a-classic-nanovna

The Si5351A data sheet specifies its maximum output frequency as 200MHz but the designers have found that in practice most of the chips are able to operate to 300 MHz. As the outputs from the clock generator chip are square waves they are rich in odd harmonics and by generating LO and test signals whose third harmonics are spaced by 6 kHz it is possible to extend the frequency range to 900 MHz.

Extending the Frequency Range

Over the past year newer versions of the firmware have appeared on Github and the Nanovna IO group that extend the frequency  range of the unit up to 1500 MHz by using the fifth harmonic of the Si5351A output. I was curious to see how well it would work and so I re-flashed the firmware in my unit with the DFU files uploaded to Github by Dislord, [1].

There are extensive guides to flashing firmware to STM32F microcontrollers on the internet and Youtube so I will not cover it here.

Conclusion

Overall the unit has become useful as an indicator of performance at frequencies in the 23cm amateur band and the additional capacitors have reduced the noise on the traces at frequencies in its original operating range improving the dynamic range there as well. There may still be some scope for further noise reduction.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Extending the Frequency Range of a “Classic” NanoVNA<br />
<a href="https://gm8bjf.joomla.com/20-extending-the-frequency-range-of-a-classic-nanovna" rel="nofollow">https://gm8bjf.joomla.com/20-extending-the-frequency-range-of-a-classic-nanovna</a></p>
<p>The Si5351A data sheet specifies its maximum output frequency as 200MHz but the designers have found that in practice most of the chips are able to operate to 300 MHz. As the outputs from the clock generator chip are square waves they are rich in odd harmonics and by generating LO and test signals whose third harmonics are spaced by 6 kHz it is possible to extend the frequency range to 900 MHz.</p>
<p>Extending the Frequency Range</p>
<p>Over the past year newer versions of the firmware have appeared on Github and the Nanovna IO group that extend the frequency  range of the unit up to 1500 MHz by using the fifth harmonic of the Si5351A output. I was curious to see how well it would work and so I re-flashed the firmware in my unit with the DFU files uploaded to Github by Dislord, [1].</p>
<p>There are extensive guides to flashing firmware to STM32F microcontrollers on the internet and Youtube so I will not cover it here.</p>
<p>Conclusion</p>
<p>Overall the unit has become useful as an indicator of performance at frequencies in the 23cm amateur band and the additional capacitors have reduced the noise on the traces at frequencies in its original operating range improving the dynamic range there as well. There may still be some scope for further noise reduction.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2019/09/28/testing-nanovna/comment-page-4/#comment-1804243</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2023 05:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Building and Using the AVNA1 Audio Vector Network Analyzer
A Teensy 3.6 based analyzer that measures impedance and transmission from 10 Hz to 40 kHz.
http://www.janbob.com/electron/AVNA1/AVNA1.htm]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Building and Using the AVNA1 Audio Vector Network Analyzer<br />
A Teensy 3.6 based analyzer that measures impedance and transmission from 10 Hz to 40 kHz.<br />
<a href="http://www.janbob.com/electron/AVNA1/AVNA1.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.janbob.com/electron/AVNA1/AVNA1.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2019/09/28/testing-nanovna/comment-page-4/#comment-1804242</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2023 05:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[https://groups.io/g/nanovna-users/topic/reduce_frequency_range/68531352]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://groups.io/g/nanovna-users/topic/reduce_frequency_range/68531352" rel="nofollow">https://groups.io/g/nanovna-users/topic/reduce_frequency_range/68531352</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2019/09/28/testing-nanovna/comment-page-4/#comment-1789094</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2022 13:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps It’s Time To Talk About All Those Fakes And Clones
https://hackaday.com/2022/12/05/perhaps-its-time-to-talk-about-all-those-fakes-and-clones/

We all like cheap instruments, whether they are a logic analyser, an SDR, a spectrum analyser, or whatever. Sometimes the cheap products are based upon open source projects, such as the NanoVNA vector network analyser we looked at a while back, but it’s important to be aware that just as often they are clones of commercial products that have had a huge research and development applied to create them.

There may be some open-source enthusiasts who would respond that all such things should be open source hardware anyway, and that the devices have been somehow “set free” by the cloners.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps It’s Time To Talk About All Those Fakes And Clones<br />
<a href="https://hackaday.com/2022/12/05/perhaps-its-time-to-talk-about-all-those-fakes-and-clones/" rel="nofollow">https://hackaday.com/2022/12/05/perhaps-its-time-to-talk-about-all-those-fakes-and-clones/</a></p>
<p>We all like cheap instruments, whether they are a logic analyser, an SDR, a spectrum analyser, or whatever. Sometimes the cheap products are based upon open source projects, such as the NanoVNA vector network analyser we looked at a while back, but it’s important to be aware that just as often they are clones of commercial products that have had a huge research and development applied to create them.</p>
<p>There may be some open-source enthusiasts who would respond that all such things should be open source hardware anyway, and that the devices have been somehow “set free” by the cloners.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2019/09/28/testing-nanovna/comment-page-4/#comment-1789046</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2022 12:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How not to damage your NanoVNA when measuring SWR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=totwu4IbavE
He talks about the possibility of static build up on antennas and how it can damage the input of a nanoVNA (or any measuring equipment upon connecting both for a measurement). 
Saw this video some time ago and now was a good time to implement some safety precaution as am waiting for parts to continue with my antenna building, testing, and experimenting. 
Used a Neon Bulb (NE-2) as a gas discharge tube, two 1N5711 Schottky diodes connected back-to-back to limit voltage swing to 0.4 Volts. Had an empty tin can and a couple of BNC connectors laying around. Took but an hour and a half of fun building. The nanoVNA measures SWR &lt;1.2:1, and insertion loss &lt; 0.1 dB, 1-30 MHz. 
A much cleaner build, probably very good for VHF/UHF, can be found at: https://www.qrpforum.de/index.php?attachment/23764-nanovna-input-protector-pdf/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How not to damage your NanoVNA when measuring SWR<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=totwu4IbavE" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=totwu4IbavE</a><br />
He talks about the possibility of static build up on antennas and how it can damage the input of a nanoVNA (or any measuring equipment upon connecting both for a measurement).<br />
Saw this video some time ago and now was a good time to implement some safety precaution as am waiting for parts to continue with my antenna building, testing, and experimenting.<br />
Used a Neon Bulb (NE-2) as a gas discharge tube, two 1N5711 Schottky diodes connected back-to-back to limit voltage swing to 0.4 Volts. Had an empty tin can and a couple of BNC connectors laying around. Took but an hour and a half of fun building. The nanoVNA measures SWR &lt;1.2:1, and insertion loss &lt; 0.1 dB, 1-30 MHz.<br />
A much cleaner build, probably very good for VHF/UHF, can be found at: <a href="https://www.qrpforum.de/index.php?attachment/23764-nanovna-input-protector-pdf/" rel="nofollow">https://www.qrpforum.de/index.php?attachment/23764-nanovna-input-protector-pdf/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2019/09/28/testing-nanovna/comment-page-4/#comment-1767940</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2022 19:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From https://www.facebook.com/groups/368777730463838/permalink/951284035546535/

Here is my latest video, using the nanoVNA-F.

Verification of nominal values of inductors and capacitors is a useful function of the nanoVNA.  In this video I measure the actual values, compare to the marked component values, and then verify the accuracy of the method used to obtain the readings using an LC resonant tank circuit and some S21 measurements.  Does a test fixture make measurements that much more accurate as opposed to using simple alligator clip leads?

nanoVNA - Alligator Clip Leads vs. VNA Test Fixture Kit - Measuring Inductors &amp; Capacitors
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2_aytTVvFw&amp;feature=youtu.be]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/368777730463838/permalink/951284035546535/" rel="nofollow">https://www.facebook.com/groups/368777730463838/permalink/951284035546535/</a></p>
<p>Here is my latest video, using the nanoVNA-F.</p>
<p>Verification of nominal values of inductors and capacitors is a useful function of the nanoVNA.  In this video I measure the actual values, compare to the marked component values, and then verify the accuracy of the method used to obtain the readings using an LC resonant tank circuit and some S21 measurements.  Does a test fixture make measurements that much more accurate as opposed to using simple alligator clip leads?</p>
<p>nanoVNA &#8211; Alligator Clip Leads vs. VNA Test Fixture Kit &#8211; Measuring Inductors &amp; Capacitors<br />
<a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2_aytTVvFw&#038;feature=youtu.be" rel="nofollow">https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2_aytTVvFw&#038;feature=youtu.be</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2019/09/28/testing-nanovna/comment-page-3/#comment-1763622</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2022 14:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Teardown of a LiteVNA Vector Network Analyzer
http://www.kerrywong.com/2022/03/22/teardown-of-a-litevna-vector-network-analyzer/

LiteVNA current has two versions: LiteVNA 62 and LiteVNA 64. Besides LCD screen sizes (2.8 inch for the 62 model versus 3.95 inch for the 64 model) and battery capacities (1.3 Ah for the 62 model versus 2 Ah for the 64 model), all other technical aspects are identical. The model I got here is the LiteVNA 62.

Unlike the NanoVNA-F V2 which is enclosed in a metal case, the LiteVNA comes in a plastic case with no additional shielding. But the build quality looks quite decent. 


https://eleshop.eu/litevna.html

The LiteVNA is a portable 50 kHz - 6.3 GHz vector network analyzer which design is based on the NanoVNA and SAA2. This vna is designed to measure equipment reflection and transmission coefficients without the need for a large analyzer. The LiteVNA uses one mixer which enables S11 and S21 measurements through RF switching and TDR/DTF measurements through IFFT calculations.
The analyser has a 2.8&quot; touch-screen display that can show the measurements in 10-1001 data points. Furthermore, the analyser has a built-in 1300 mAh battery and can be connected to an android phone or PC. Connecting to a phone or PC allows for controlling the analyser and displaying the measurements.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teardown of a LiteVNA Vector Network Analyzer<br />
<a href="http://www.kerrywong.com/2022/03/22/teardown-of-a-litevna-vector-network-analyzer/" rel="nofollow">http://www.kerrywong.com/2022/03/22/teardown-of-a-litevna-vector-network-analyzer/</a></p>
<p>LiteVNA current has two versions: LiteVNA 62 and LiteVNA 64. Besides LCD screen sizes (2.8 inch for the 62 model versus 3.95 inch for the 64 model) and battery capacities (1.3 Ah for the 62 model versus 2 Ah for the 64 model), all other technical aspects are identical. The model I got here is the LiteVNA 62.</p>
<p>Unlike the NanoVNA-F V2 which is enclosed in a metal case, the LiteVNA comes in a plastic case with no additional shielding. But the build quality looks quite decent. </p>
<p><a href="https://eleshop.eu/litevna.html" rel="nofollow">https://eleshop.eu/litevna.html</a></p>
<p>The LiteVNA is a portable 50 kHz &#8211; 6.3 GHz vector network analyzer which design is based on the NanoVNA and SAA2. This vna is designed to measure equipment reflection and transmission coefficients without the need for a large analyzer. The LiteVNA uses one mixer which enables S11 and S21 measurements through RF switching and TDR/DTF measurements through IFFT calculations.<br />
The analyser has a 2.8&#8243; touch-screen display that can show the measurements in 10-1001 data points. Furthermore, the analyser has a built-in 1300 mAh battery and can be connected to an android phone or PC. Connecting to a phone or PC allows for controlling the analyser and displaying the measurements.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2019/09/28/testing-nanovna/comment-page-3/#comment-1763621</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2022 14:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Teardown of a NanoVNA-F V2 Vector Network Analyzer
http://www.kerrywong.com/2022/01/07/teardown-of-a-nanovna-f-v2-vector-network-analyzer/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teardown of a NanoVNA-F V2 Vector Network Analyzer<br />
<a href="http://www.kerrywong.com/2022/01/07/teardown-of-a-nanovna-f-v2-vector-network-analyzer/" rel="nofollow">http://www.kerrywong.com/2022/01/07/teardown-of-a-nanovna-f-v2-vector-network-analyzer/</a></p>
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