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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2025/09/26/power-cable/comment-page-1/#comment-1869755</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2026 15:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What makes ZenSati Cables so expensive?

ZenSati Cables&#039; high price tag can be attributed to several factors, including:

1. Materials: High-end audio cables often use premium materials like pure copper, silver, or gold, which can significantly increase production costs.
2. Craftsmanship: Handcrafted or bespoke cables might require skilled labor, contributing to the overall expense.
3. Design and engineering: Advanced cable designs, shielding, and insulation can also drive up costs.
4. Brand reputation: Luxury brands often command high prices due to their reputation for quality and exclusivity.
5. Marketing and target audience: High-end audio equipment is often marketed to audiophiles who prioritize sound quality and are willing to pay a premium for it.

These factors combined can result in a hefty price tag, like the $500,000 mentioned. However, it&#039;s worth noting that the perceived value of such cables is often subjective and dependent on individual audiophile preferences.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What makes ZenSati Cables so expensive?</p>
<p>ZenSati Cables&#8217; high price tag can be attributed to several factors, including:</p>
<p>1. Materials: High-end audio cables often use premium materials like pure copper, silver, or gold, which can significantly increase production costs.<br />
2. Craftsmanship: Handcrafted or bespoke cables might require skilled labor, contributing to the overall expense.<br />
3. Design and engineering: Advanced cable designs, shielding, and insulation can also drive up costs.<br />
4. Brand reputation: Luxury brands often command high prices due to their reputation for quality and exclusivity.<br />
5. Marketing and target audience: High-end audio equipment is often marketed to audiophiles who prioritize sound quality and are willing to pay a premium for it.</p>
<p>These factors combined can result in a hefty price tag, like the $500,000 mentioned. However, it&#8217;s worth noting that the perceived value of such cables is often subjective and dependent on individual audiophile preferences.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2025/09/26/power-cable/comment-page-1/#comment-1865475</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2025 01:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alan Mulvie Think of what comes out of your speakers having gone through a long chain of items that change the sound. If the last link (the speakers) are &quot;basic,&quot; the rest won&#039;t matter so much. But when every link is aced, it is a wonderful experience.

I started my amplifier design work thinking of Total Harmonic Distortion (&quot;THD&quot;). Felt very happy getting that down to 0.02%! 

Then I found that odd harmonics sounded harsh and nasty, while even order ditto sometimes even added a layer of &quot;pleasantness.&quot;

Then Intermodulation Distortion! Ugh, nasty, fix that!

Then power amp design. Class A is hard to do if you need a lot of power needed for certain speaker designs. 

So, Class B next? Ugh, Crossover Distortion, blech. 

OK on to Class AB (Class A up to a limit, then &quot;Class B for the rest&quot;). 
What limit?...

And more...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan Mulvie Think of what comes out of your speakers having gone through a long chain of items that change the sound. If the last link (the speakers) are &#8220;basic,&#8221; the rest won&#8217;t matter so much. But when every link is aced, it is a wonderful experience.</p>
<p>I started my amplifier design work thinking of Total Harmonic Distortion (&#8220;THD&#8221;). Felt very happy getting that down to 0.02%! </p>
<p>Then I found that odd harmonics sounded harsh and nasty, while even order ditto sometimes even added a layer of &#8220;pleasantness.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then Intermodulation Distortion! Ugh, nasty, fix that!</p>
<p>Then power amp design. Class A is hard to do if you need a lot of power needed for certain speaker designs. </p>
<p>So, Class B next? Ugh, Crossover Distortion, blech. </p>
<p>OK on to Class AB (Class A up to a limit, then &#8220;Class B for the rest&#8221;).<br />
What limit?&#8230;</p>
<p>And more&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2025/09/26/power-cable/comment-page-1/#comment-1863401</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2025 18:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I found the video for ya https://youtu.be/Tq-fe29NO0o?si=pejeUWzUmJwDcCKo]]></description>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2025/09/26/power-cable/comment-page-1/#comment-1862897</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2025 12:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Geir Atle Løken I see no point in going thicker than what is used inside wall. Also no point in some special cable construction. For few meters long power cable only thing that has made in some cases difference has been shielding on the power cable - shielded power cable can reduce the noise coupling from mains wiring to nearby signal cables. In some situations there has been difference in background noise level that can be heard and measured (alternative method to reduce noise pickup cam be better shielded signal cable or more distance between cables)

Tomi Engdahl I totally agree. If the signal cables are shielded, I can&#039;t see any advantages with special power cables at all. And I have seen the prices on some of those cables...

Walter Franken exactly. Then the speaker manufacturers uses bell wire from the terminals to the drivers. It’s the audio equivalent of Steven seagal……… bullshido!!

Walter - If nothing else, inside those big, expensive black boxes are PC board traces, usually.  Or, thin wire in an output transformer.  Heroics in the last 3 meters is a bit silly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geir Atle Løken I see no point in going thicker than what is used inside wall. Also no point in some special cable construction. For few meters long power cable only thing that has made in some cases difference has been shielding on the power cable &#8211; shielded power cable can reduce the noise coupling from mains wiring to nearby signal cables. In some situations there has been difference in background noise level that can be heard and measured (alternative method to reduce noise pickup cam be better shielded signal cable or more distance between cables)</p>
<p>Tomi Engdahl I totally agree. If the signal cables are shielded, I can&#8217;t see any advantages with special power cables at all. And I have seen the prices on some of those cables&#8230;</p>
<p>Walter Franken exactly. Then the speaker manufacturers uses bell wire from the terminals to the drivers. It’s the audio equivalent of Steven seagal……… bullshido!!</p>
<p>Walter &#8211; If nothing else, inside those big, expensive black boxes are PC board traces, usually.  Or, thin wire in an output transformer.  Heroics in the last 3 meters is a bit silly.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2025 11:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Utter nonsense, to me, but if someone is willing to pay for it then why not?

Are these cables safe? I mean, there are standards power cables have to comply to. Are they rated for the mains voltage? What about the earth connection?....

do any of these companies ever show sample level analyses of what happens to a test signal with / without the emporers clothes on? thats the wild thing about this stuff - we have complete information

i suppose the retort is &#039;hahaha you&#039;ve just outed yourself as an amateur by even suggesting polluting my signal chain with an AD converter&#039;

Fashion accessories]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Utter nonsense, to me, but if someone is willing to pay for it then why not?</p>
<p>Are these cables safe? I mean, there are standards power cables have to comply to. Are they rated for the mains voltage? What about the earth connection?&#8230;.</p>
<p>do any of these companies ever show sample level analyses of what happens to a test signal with / without the emporers clothes on? thats the wild thing about this stuff &#8211; we have complete information</p>
<p>i suppose the retort is &#8216;hahaha you&#8217;ve just outed yourself as an amateur by even suggesting polluting my signal chain with an AD converter&#8217;</p>
<p>Fashion accessories</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2025/09/26/power-cable/comment-page-1/#comment-1862895</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2025 11:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Someone’s compensating his screwed up DNA-helix.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone’s compensating his screwed up DNA-helix.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2025/09/26/power-cable/comment-page-1/#comment-1862894</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2025 11:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is the claimed benefit of this monster power cable? It seems to be in every way worse than traditional power cable in all relevant performance features.

Tomi Engdahl ...starting with standards compliance! Your insurers will forsake you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the claimed benefit of this monster power cable? It seems to be in every way worse than traditional power cable in all relevant performance features.</p>
<p>Tomi Engdahl &#8230;starting with standards compliance! Your insurers will forsake you.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2025 20:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Geir Atle Løken I see no point in going thicker than what is used inside wall. Also no point in some special cable construction. For few meters long power cable only thing that has made in some cases difference has been shielding on the power cable - shielded power cable can reduce the noise coupling from mains wiring to nearby signal cables. In some situations there has been difference in background noise level that can be heard and measured (alternative method to reduce noise pickup cam be better shielded signal cable or more distance between cables)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geir Atle Løken I see no point in going thicker than what is used inside wall. Also no point in some special cable construction. For few meters long power cable only thing that has made in some cases difference has been shielding on the power cable &#8211; shielded power cable can reduce the noise coupling from mains wiring to nearby signal cables. In some situations there has been difference in background noise level that can be heard and measured (alternative method to reduce noise pickup cam be better shielded signal cable or more distance between cables)</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
		<link>https://www.epanorama.net/blog/2025/09/26/power-cable/comment-page-1/#comment-1862866</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2025 20:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1D38akwfRz/

Tomi Engdahl I&#039;ve built a lot of walls of many different kinds. Concrete, gypsum and various types of wood materials, both industrial and private buildings, and I have never seen any other kind than non-metallic sheathed cables with different gauges inside pvc tubes. I can&#039;t see any reason to plug any cables better or thicker than those inside the walls into the socket for the last few feet, because a chain is never stronger than the weakest part.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From <a href="https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1D38akwfRz/" rel="nofollow">https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1D38akwfRz/</a></p>
<p>Tomi Engdahl I&#8217;ve built a lot of walls of many different kinds. Concrete, gypsum and various types of wood materials, both industrial and private buildings, and I have never seen any other kind than non-metallic sheathed cables with different gauges inside pvc tubes. I can&#8217;t see any reason to plug any cables better or thicker than those inside the walls into the socket for the last few feet, because a chain is never stronger than the weakest part.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomi Engdahl</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomi Engdahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2025 20:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Power Ground: This essential connection links the amplifier securely to the main power supply ground. By doing so, it provides not only a crucial safety path for electrical current but also ensures that any excess or stray current is safely directed away from sensitive components, protecting both the device and the user from potential electrical hazards. This connection is vital for the stable and reliable operation of the amplifier.

Signal Ground: Serving as the fundamental reference point for audio signals, the signal ground plays an indispensable role in the fidelity of sound reproduction. By maintaining a consistent baseline, it ensures that audio signals are transmitted clearly, devoid of unwanted noise or interference. This clarity of transmission is pivotal for delivering high-quality, noise-free sound to listeners.

Star Ground &amp; Spar Ground: These terms refer to specific and carefully designed grounding techniques employed within the amplifier circuit. The star ground method involves creating a single, centralized ground point, which minimizes the potential for loop interference and noise pollution. On the other hand, the spar ground method—involving a distributed grounding scheme—equally aims to reduce noise by strategically placing multiple grounding points. Both techniques are meticulously implemented with the objective of minimizing noise and interference, thus optimizing the audio quality and performance of the amplifier.

Power Amplifier Board: Often described as the heart of an amplifier system, this central component is where audio signals are boosted to the necessary levels for driving speakers or other output devices. Proper grounding of the power amplifier board is paramount to ensuring stable operation. Without effective grounding, the amplified signals could become distorted, leading to undesirable audio performance. Consequently, meticulous attention to grounding is essential for maintaining the integrity and quality of the amplification process.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Power Ground: This essential connection links the amplifier securely to the main power supply ground. By doing so, it provides not only a crucial safety path for electrical current but also ensures that any excess or stray current is safely directed away from sensitive components, protecting both the device and the user from potential electrical hazards. This connection is vital for the stable and reliable operation of the amplifier.</p>
<p>Signal Ground: Serving as the fundamental reference point for audio signals, the signal ground plays an indispensable role in the fidelity of sound reproduction. By maintaining a consistent baseline, it ensures that audio signals are transmitted clearly, devoid of unwanted noise or interference. This clarity of transmission is pivotal for delivering high-quality, noise-free sound to listeners.</p>
<p>Star Ground &amp; Spar Ground: These terms refer to specific and carefully designed grounding techniques employed within the amplifier circuit. The star ground method involves creating a single, centralized ground point, which minimizes the potential for loop interference and noise pollution. On the other hand, the spar ground method—involving a distributed grounding scheme—equally aims to reduce noise by strategically placing multiple grounding points. Both techniques are meticulously implemented with the objective of minimizing noise and interference, thus optimizing the audio quality and performance of the amplifier.</p>
<p>Power Amplifier Board: Often described as the heart of an amplifier system, this central component is where audio signals are boosted to the necessary levels for driving speakers or other output devices. Proper grounding of the power amplifier board is paramount to ensuring stable operation. Without effective grounding, the amplified signals could become distorted, leading to undesirable audio performance. Consequently, meticulous attention to grounding is essential for maintaining the integrity and quality of the amplification process.</p>
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