Fluorescent lamp capacitors can fail

I have written about fluorescent lights technology and fire dangers related to fluorescent lights. I had earlier covered the problems related to starter, bad tube and ballast overheating.

Now there is another risk to consider: most fluorescent lamps powered from 230V AC have a filtering capacitor on power input between live and neutral. This is typically there for interference suppressing and/or power factor correction.

That capacitor is normally X rated “self healing” type, but they can sometimes fail. When they fail their case starts turning black, and they can start putting out smoke – and potentially start a fire.

Here is one example:

Maybe it’s a good idea to start to replace very old fluorescent lamps before they fail. The replacement means replacing the whole lamp – using safety starter or LED bulb does not help in this problem.

2 Comments

  1. Tomi Engdahl says:

    Similar failing capacitors also on other devices:

    EEVblog #1183 – RIFA Madness (Schaffner Repair)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAbrU17hLTM

    Repairing the Schaffner NSD200E Mains Interference Simulator.
    And the dangers of bad mains filters capacitors, and RIFA brand in particular.

    Comments:

    The Schaffner IEC connector is almost certain to fail in the same spectacular fashion. I haven’t opened one up but I suspect they have same RIFA caps inside and exhibit the same failure mode.
    In my experience the RIFA caps drop to quite a low insulation resistance before failure so an insulation resistance test from line to earth can be useful for finding dodgy Y caps in an IEC module. I treat anything with an insulation resistance of less than 10 megohms as an imminent failure and replace the filter module.
    However, finding dodgy X caps with an insulation resistance test from line to neutral is less successful since the filter modules commonly have a in-built discharge of a few megohms which masks the leakage of a failing X cap. It is safest to just immediately replace any Schaffner IEC connectors of that vintage.

    I had 2 of these RIFA caps fail in an old sewing machine.

    RIFA caps and VARTA memory backup cells…. Match made in hell.

    Yep, always blame the Rifa, I had one go bang inside a Hoover Junior vacuum, the stink was immense and the stink stuck on the vac for months even after cleaning the mess out. Where there’s a Rifa, there’ll be trouble…

    twocvbloke moisture in compounds remains a modern problem, even with hermetic and conformal coating. Shell up what you may, when things short and go bang the case becomes a potential projectile no matter the construction.

    These Rifa are known for that……after some years of work……I used to work with process recorders in a power plant and they all used these caps. As these recorders were pluged in 24/7, all the caps had to be replaced because of that issue. Good video.

    In German vintage audio forums, these RIFA caps are known as “Knallfrosch”, which translates to firecracker.

    “safety capacitor” and “notorious for failing” don’t go together too well.

    isnt that what makes them safe, they fail open
    if they explode it should fail open, ive had a few go off and its better then a cap shorting and burning up the rest of the circuit that might also catch on fire.

    In europe they might be underrated by now also since we have raised the grid voltage. In my sewing machine there were 220v caps and our grid is now 250. I dont know how much that would matter but the new ones are properly rated anyway.

    the main ac filter is to keep line noise from getting in or out , so basicly for passing ~60hz and bolcking anything else that is unwanted noise. most crap today its to keep that unwanted noise from getting out because the high speed switching power supply’s polluting the airwaves … and power lines

    I’d argue it’s not “because” those are Rifa, but those metallized paper mains-caps are indeed notorious for failing.

    Believe it or not, these RIFA caps are still available!

    I once replaced a bunch of those RIFA capacitors in analog dimmer packs of an old theatre, those things really stink when blown!

    Forum:
    http://www.eevblog.com/forum/blog/eevblog-1183-rifa-madness-(schaffner-repair)/

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  2. Tomi Engdahl says:

    Fluorescent Tube Lighting
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkgKmjVMesE

    A look at switch start linear fluorescent lighting, how the tube, starter and ballast are wired and theory of operation.
    Also features an old more unusual type of tube connection.

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